Going Deep

[ianr33]

I would not go deep without having a more experienced diver with me...

So you do a lot of "trust me " dives then

 

[SDAnderson]

So you do a lot of "trust me " dives then

Ian, isn't every training dive a trust me dive?


Stan, to answer your original question with another question: aside from the fact that deep diving requires more experience, training, planning, equipment, expense, skill and risk, how different is it from shallow diving?

The answer is: a lot, but nothing down there is worth dying for. Take each step one at a time, master the basics and learn to push the envelope, not set fire to it. Those who rush to the bottom all too often don't return to the surface.

 

[OneBrightGator]

Ian, isn't every training dive a trust me dive?

No, if you're not prepared for the dive, you shouldn't be doing it, under instruction or not.

 

[animian2002]

Most of my dives have been deep dives with a few otherwise. I like deep dives and everything not deep has been less appealing. Is this common? I guess I like the thrill/challenge of going deep. Who knows but I need to work it out because I prejudge a dive by the depth. Crazy huh? Do others feel this way also?

I too enjoyed deep dive, but due to my limited training, all enjoyment are rather short And I have this habit and that is whenever I go deep,I make sure I go deep with no one else other than my group of trustworthy buddies :05:

 

[SteveDiver]

So you do a lot of "trust me " dives then

No, trust me dives are much different then going with someone with more experience then myself. I think it is wise to go with divers that have more experience then myself especially being a new diver. Believe me I have nothing to prove. When Diving in Hawaii I briefed the Dive Master of my experience and newness to diving. On my 119' dive the Dive Master went down with me as well as a Rescue Diver. Being a new diver it made me feel comfortable having them with me. I would not have went without them with me. Everytime I dive with more experienced divers I learn something new. I paid quite a bit of money to be accompanied be experienced divers. What is not wise is a new diver going solo or not mentioning their experience level.

 

[SteveDiver]

Actually, I do not believe you have done enough diving to establish a trend of any sort.

If depth is the only factor you judge dives on, you are headed in the general direction of big problems.

It is far more likely the dives you liked best just happened to be deeper than the others.

You are correct. After thinking about it I realized that it is not going deep that fascinated me it is what I saw Corsair, Sea Tiger etc. I really enjoyed the wreck dives. Thanks....

 

[SDAnderson]

No, if you're not prepared for the dive, you shouldn't be doing it, under instruction or not.

Forgive me for splitting hairs here, but if you're truly "prepared" for a dive, what purpose does the instructor serve? Unless you're taking the class only to collect the card, it seems the fact that you're diving with an instructor is an inherent admission that you are still learning and have not mastered the skills. That said, I don't disagree that tagging along behind someone more experienced is a poor substitute for developing the skills necessary for a dive - be that in 10 feet of water or 100.

Each step forward requires trust in someone; either a more experienced buddy, an instructor, or yourself. Deciding that you are "prepared" requires trust in ones self to know what that means - and I suspect that you would agree the evidence indicates that all too often that trust is misplaced.

 

[SteveDiver]

No, the instructor that I went with happens to be the Dive Shop owner...I do not misplace trust. I have trust in myself and confidence. Not just getting a c-card to only "collect" is not my purpose. Unlike some people I know that have their AOW whom think that they are "all that" because of their c-card. I believe that an AOW cert is merely a stepping stone to further your education. Yes, I would prefer to dive with a more experienced diver rather if it is an instructor or not. If I did not feel confident in my dives I would not go no matter who was with me. I am always prepared for my dives and take preparation very seriously..

 

[OneBrightGator]

Well, often getting the card is just about like buying concert ticket, you wanna see the show, you gotta pay the dough.

Ideally you should learn through the class and by the time you're doing the dives you should feel confident that you could make the dives without the instructor, but a little reassurance never hurts. Basically, you shouldn't be doing a dive that you couldn't get yourself outta the water safely without a buddy and after the... stuff... hits the fan.

 

[SteveDiver]

Well, often getting the card is just about like buying concert ticket, you wanna see the show, you gotta pay the dough.

Ideally you should learn through the class and by the time you're doing the dives you should feel confident that you could make the dives without the instructor, but a little reassurance never hurts. Basically, you shouldn't be doing a dive that you couldn't get yourself outta the water safely without a buddy and after the... stuff... hits the fan.

100% agree with you.....