Galapagos - Ecuadorean Presidential Decree

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djac5700:
If you have been following this issue anywhere as near in-depth as we have, you will probably already be aware that there is NO reliable source to find out what exactly is going on. No good place to get clear guidance for our trip (although Ken from Galapagos Adventures has done his absolute best for his clients - and I am deeply appreciative of that).

I can assure you Drew that Lou and I have been following this situation from the start. We have been promised updates we didn't receive based on meetings which were supposed to happen which probably didn't.

But you are right we have no idea if Deep Blue had permission to go and then GNP changed their minds neither do we know if you were lied to. If only someone would come out and tell us what really is going on.

Frankly I don't think our trip will happen which I find devasting as we have had this booked for almost 2 years, not to mention the potential loss of several thousand dollars. I was also dissapointed to read EnronX's report as there does seem to be far fewer hammerheads than we thought we might see, I had visions of hundreds of schooling hammerheads.
 
djac5700:
I agree that directing blame towards the Sky Dancer would be unfair, but not nearly as shameful as directing it towards EnronX (or myself, as you indirectly are).

EnronX and I spent as much time as anyone researching this issue, filtering through the various unsupported hearsay, trying to get to the truth of what really has been going on. Neither one of us would have gotten on a plane bound for Ecuador/Galapagos unless we were given reasonable assurances that our trip would be going ahead as planned. Both of us spent significant time on the phone with our tour operator getting the best information we could to understand the dynamic, and the official status of our trip. We were given those assurances, not only by the tour operator, but also the crew on the boat.

As I said in my last post, fine if you were given the assurances and that is what you took as your go-ahead. I am sure you have been looking into this as hard as everyone who is stuck in this stupid mess and that you made your decision in the best of conscience. Personally I am at the stage of wanting to see everything in writing, and officially. All the stuff we have been told so far seems to fall apart with the slightest probe, so as I said, words alone are something I am now putting on the "nice to have but not enough" pile.

djac5700:
If you have been following this issue anywhere as near in-depth as we have, you will probably already be aware that there is NO reliable source to find out what exactly is going on. ....... Our requests for information through several ministries, especially the PNG, have gone unheeded.
Agreed - there is a lot of "fill in the blanks" and I know what conclusions I have come to.

djac5700:
We got on that boat because we had been given all indication that we were allowed to go to Darwin/Wolf, and that's the only reason we boarded. We did not even know that there was a problem until we docked back in Baltra on the 13th. To this day, neither you or I know whether we ever really had permission to go. Frankly, the way the PNG has handled this entire fiasco, it is not at all outside the realm of possibility that they simply changed their minds while we were out there...

That is, of course, a possibility, but please, put yourselves in our shoes. We read a report from the Galapagos, quote excited in tone, that then goes on to say that the charter was caught out at Wolf and Darwin and the message back from the PNG was that they shouldn't go back - the inference being they should not have been there is the first place - in the week when legal challenges are hotting up to try and save the trips for hundreds of thers.
The only impact I can see this trip having is to make it less likley that those following will a) get a trip or b) visit Wolf and Darwin. For EnronX to then put the blame on the one boat that was there legally was too much, frankly.

I apologise for perhaps being too harsh in my initial reply, but I was, quite literally, steaming over the whole affair.

regards

Lou
 
LouUK:
That is, of course, a possibility, but please, put yourselves in our shoes.

That is the problem I had with your entire argument - You didn't seem to be putting yourself in our shoes. It's August 2nd and we are supposed to be leaving for our long-planned trip in 2 days. We have been endlessly searching for updates, but unable to get any response from the PNG or any other Ministry. Our only "official" source of information is our tour operator, who has, IN WRITING, sent us an email stating that our trip is a go. We hold a conference call with him (which I recorded), to ensure that we would be able to proceed as planned, INCLUDING Darwin and Wolf, because we were clear that we would not go ahead with the trip if the itinerary did not include those islands.

That is the point where I, as a passenger, have done my due diligence.

Now, to be perfectly clear, I do not know what actually happened - did the Deep Blue really receive permission, then have the PNG change their mind? Was there a miscommunication between the Deep Blue and the PNG? Did the Deep Blue decide to take a chance and go up there without permission? I don't know. What I do know is that they told us that they DID have permission. IF, and that is a BIG IF, they deceived us, you are well within your rights to direct your anger at the Deep Blue for unnecessarily jeopardizing further trips. However, to direct that anger at us passengers on that trip would be just plain ignorant.

Cowjazz said it best...
cowjazz:
I think our frustration should be directed at the yacht for possibly further jeopardizing our trips, not the passengers who were fortunate enough to dive Darwin and Wolf.

As a final note - as I said before, I truly sympathize with everyone who is still suffering through this ordeal. I only hope that all of you are able to go and enjoy the Galapagos before it is further ravaged by reckless abandon for the ecosystem and corrupt politics...
 
djac5700:
IF, and that is a BIG IF, they deceived us, you are well within your rights to direct your anger at the Deep Blue for unnecessarily jeopardizing further trips. However, to direct that anger at us passengers on that trip would be just plain ignorant.

Granted, and an apology was forthcoming.




djac5700:
As a final note - as I said before, I truly sympathize with everyone who is still suffering through this ordeal. I only hope that all of you are able to go and enjoy the Galapagos before it is further ravaged by reckless abandon for the ecosystem and corrupt politics...

I doubt that will be will be possible, sadly.
 
I just received some new information from my Dutch Tour Operator. We are booked on the Lammerlaw for October 3rd (including Darwin/Wolf). This information is from Qausar Nautica, a big operator in the Galapagos.

Unfortunately we do not have any official response about this situation, so far we know that Ecuador’s President Rafael Correa is going to Galapagos this coming Tuesday (August 21st) in order to discuss diving issues. We expect and official position after that and of course I will keep you updated.

We do not think we are going to Darwin and Wolf, but we still keep our fingers crossed...
 
onderwaterfoto:
Unfortunately we do not have any official response about this situation, so far we know that Ecuador’s President Rafael Correa is going to Galapagos this coming Tuesday (August 21st) in order to discuss diving issues. We expect and official position after that and of course I will keep you updated.

Do we know if the meeting took place and, if so, what was said?
 
Forgive me for being cynical.

My guess is this is what was said in the meeting:

Correa: "Are there still some sharks left at Wolf and Darwin?"
Cruz: "Yes."
Correa: "Hmmmm. I thought they'd be cleaned out by now, and we could allow the dive operators to resume operations. Okay, lets tell everyone we will meet next Tuesday. Then, we will announce our next meeting."

We will then get emails from tour operators, booking agents and dive shops telling us the meeting went well, things are looking good and the situation will be resolved shortly.

:shakehead:
 
Here is a translation of notes taken from the meeting yesterday. I highlighted in blue the part that is of interest to us. Bear with me, this is very rough translation:

The decree to send the special regulation for the qualification and control of the residence in Galápagos was signed yesterday by president Rafael Correa. It was in an extraordinary session of the National Institute Galápagos (Ingala), in the island Santa Cruz.

The objective of the decree is to establish the procedures of qualification and control of entrance and calls to account of the people who are transferred to the islands or permanezcanen they; as well as to establish the minimum contents of entrance cards and the membership cards of residence, and other procedures.

The President was with the ministers of Economy, the Faustus Ortiz; of Tourism, Maria Rescuing Isabel; of Defense, Lorena Escudero; of Atmosphere, Ana Albán, and of Social welfare, Jeanette Sanchez. The meeting was made next to the other members of the Ingala, recently posesionado governor of Galápagos, Eliécer Cruz; the mayors of Isabela, Santa Cruz and San Cristóbal; delegates of the Ingala, the foundation Charles Darwin, fishing sector, the tourist operators.

Correa emphasized that the actions of the Government in Galápagos do not obey to international resolutions, making reference to the decision of June last of the United Nations for the Education, Science and the Culture (UNESCO), to locate to Galápagos in the List of Patrimony in Danger. "We are here fulfilling not with which it says the international bureaucracy, foreign far from it, we are fulfilling our convictions and responsibilities".

Nevertheless, the immigration - that is tried to regulate is one of the reasons that UNESCO for the declaration mentioned, like the invasive species, a subject that also was in the meeting yesterday.

Representatives of the National Park Galápagos (png) exposed the plan for the control of introduced species, that was approved unanimously. That plan is complemented with a resolution control air traffic. All the airplanes that go to Galápagos must stop first in an airport of the continent to be inspected.

The President supported the proposal of which the tourist operators continue until December with the activity of Diving, prohibited by the png, so that they can fulfill the commitments acquired and the businesses do not break. That caused the reaction of the fishing sector, that defended the impossibility to exert two activities.

Finally a consensus was managed to accept the prorogation until December, and the authorities emit new tourist patents from January, giving priority to the fishermen.

The political endorsement that gave the President to the Ingala marked the day. It endorsed the Governor, who presides over the advice of the Ingala, said that the Government tries to rescue that organism. "Nobody did case to him to the Ingala, now are going to him to make case", maintained the President.


Balance of the fishing
The National Park Galápagos presented/displayed yesterday the report on the fishing of the cucumber of sea. During the 50 days considered by the Interinstitutional Authority de Manejo fished 1 254 735 of individuals in the Marine Reserve.

n the 446 embarcacionesb authorized to fish single 160 participated in the capture of the species. Also 436 fishermen.

Png: 1.25 million cucumbers of sea in Galápagos were captured More than 1.25 million cucumbers of sea were captured in the marine reserve of the Ecuadorian archipelago of Galápagos during the period allowed for it, informed the National Park Galápagos today (png).

The cucumbers of sea are equinodermos of the family of holoturias, whose fishing is regulated due to its shortage.

The png informed in an official notice into which 12,508 cucumbers of sea were seized which they did not have the minimum stature of capture, of which 9,973 were in fresh state, reason why were given back to the sea by guardaparques and personnel of the Navy.

In the 446 boats authorized to fish only 160 they participated in the capture of the cucumber of sea and of the 1,021 fishermen registered in the png, only 436 were dedicated to this task.

Pesquería of cucumber of sea, of the Isostichopus species fuscus, lasted fifty days followed, as soon as the Interinstitutional Authority de Manejo raised the existing prohibition.

In Galápagos 36 species of holoturias exist.

The cucumbers of sea are animals extended and cylindrical of color coffee in the dorsal and yellowish part in the belly, that acts in the cycle of the marine water like purifiers of certain nutrients of the sand of the bottoms.

The Galápagos islands, located to about thousand kilometers of the Ecuadorian continental coasts, were declared in 1978 Natural Patrimony of the Humanity by the United Nations for the Education, Science and the Culture (UNESCO).


What does this mean? My dive shop has asked for my passport number, DAN insurance number, number of dives, last time diving and if I want to dive Nitrox.

I'm cautiously optimistic I'll get to dive in Galapagos.
 

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