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Nice game. Hazardous and extremely stupid though. One of these days one of you will screw it up and then the fun really begins.
Absolutley ignorant.
Tom
Absolutley ignorant.
Tom
Freediving as training for diving?
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In a perfect world those training skills are fine; however, we are far from a perfect world. While these skills may or may not be beneficial to folks the fact is you shouldn't be teaching new scuba students these training drills. They may get the idea "Well, it's OK to hold my breath now and then". #1 rule in Scuba without an ounce of exception is NEVER NEVER HOLD YOUR BREATH, ALWAYS BREATHE CONTINOUSLY!
These skills you were taught have been used by EVERY agency out there but that was 30+ yrs. ago. Quite literally!
Just remember the importance of breathing while diving.
I have very recently got into free diving and absolutely love it. But I don't think it will help my SCUBA bouyancy out much.
These skills you were taught have been used by EVERY agency out there but that was 30+ yrs. ago. Quite literally!
Just remember the importance of breathing while diving.
I have very recently got into free diving and absolutely love it. But I don't think it will help my SCUBA bouyancy out much.
Rockhound
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I "free dive" as a part of my training all the time. But I don't mix the two in the same session, as it opens up the possibility of a serious consequence to a simple oversight (see my reply on the "anxiety thread"....)
along the same lines, check out the message from one of my all time favorite buddies/good friends from Austin. Recently cavern certified (NACD/NSS in Florida), she also took a free diving class from a woman in Austin who is the subject of this link. You folks in Austin ought to check this out:
Tanya Kicks Arse!
JC
Saturday August 17, 5:14 pm Eastern Time
Press Release
SOURCE: Club Med
World Champion Freediver, Tanya Streeter Shatters Both Men and Women's World Records at Club Med Turkoise, Turks and Caicos
It has never been this deep!
MIAMI, Aug. 17 /PRNewswire/ -- A new Freediving World Record has been set today in the waters of Club Med Turkoise in Providenciales, Turks and Caicos. World Champion Freediver, Tanya Streeter, reached her goal depth of 160m/525ft in a total dive time of 3 minutes and 26 seconds. This dive shatters the previous women's No Limits World Record held by Canadian, Mandy-Rae Cruickshank (136m/446ft) and even surpasses the men's No Limits World Record of 154m/505ft held by Frenchman, Loic LeFerme. Streeter has clearly shown her determination and passion to prove her psychological and physiological endurance capabilities by redefining her limits!
The dive was officiated by two representatives of Freediving's governing body A.I.D.A.(Association Internationale pour le Developement d'Apnee) who verified that the record was carried out in strict accordance with the No Limits regulations. Streeter also submitted to a test for banned and controlled substances as determined by the International Olympic Committee.
"This was a great day for everyone involved because we have had the chance to do something truly unique in the best possible conditions," commented Streeter. "Working so closely with Club Med, the Turks and Caicos Tourism Board and Red Bull has been a pleasure and an honor for me as an athlete. Sponsors are crucial to success and the success we had today is important for the future of Freediving." She reflected that the dive was "an amazing experience that I will never forget." She continued, "At the bottom, I blew a kiss to the ocean, for the gifts it has given me."
Streeter has reflected the true meaning of Club Med spirit; having fun while accomplishing a goal! As seen on her site http://www.redefineyourlimits.com, Streeter has kept a detailed journal of her daily accounts with the ocean, her trainings, her social experiences, and especially her triumphs on her dives and the Club Med trapeze. She gave detailed descriptions about the sport and the equipment required as well as introducing her team and sponsors. Besides her training regime which included stretching and breathing exercises during sunset, Streeter also swam just like a mermaid in the crystal blue waters of Turks and Caicos and shared her Freediving experiences with guests of Club Med Turkoise during weekly presentations.
The Turks and Caicos Tourism Board also showed Streeter and her team the beauty of its Islands. She was able to go on excursions with Big Blue Unlimited (an eco-diving adventure business) and visit O2 Technical Diving, who provided gas blending services to her deep safety team. She also visited luxurious Parrot Cay.
"The Turks and Caicos Islands is known for being one of the best diving destinations in the world and we have been delighted to work with Club Med Turkoise, the first resort on the Islands," commented John Skippings, director of the Tourism Board and official co-sponsor of the Freediving World Record. "We are proud of Tanya Streeter and her record-breaking achievement in the clear bluewaters that surround our Islands."
EDITOR'S NOTES
With just a single breath of air from the surface, Streeter descended down an officially measured dive rope on a weighted sled. Upon arriving at her target depth, she manually inflated a liftbag that brought her back to the surface. Pairs of safety divers were situated at 80m/262ft, 110m/360ft and 140m/459ft breathing specially blended mixed gasses, together with a pair of scuba divers at the surface and a pair at 40m/131ft. In addition to being fully equipped for their own safety as well as Tanya's, the divers carried metal rods, which they banged together at predetermined depths to let Tanya know exactly what depth she was at during the dive. Tanya completed approximately 10 training dives in the last 3 weeks during her stay at Club Med Turkoise, Turks and Caicos, each getting gradually deeper towards her goal.
Born in the Cayman Islands, Tanya Streeter was educated in one of the most prominent girl's schools in Great Britain, Roedean. She discovered her love of Freediving in late 1997 when accompanying male friends who were spear fishing and complimented her on her natural ability. After twice beating men's world records in two Freediving disciplines, Streeter began to investigate the science behind the sport and was determined to train herself physically and mentally to continuously prove the natural aquatic abilities of mankind. Together with research dives made at Northwest Emergency Recompression Unit in England, and cardio/neuro physiological studies done at Oxford University, the record dive was filmed as part of a documentary series "Extraordinary People" for Channel 5 in the United Kingdom and other American network television. Streeter now lives in Austin, Texas with loving husband and supportive manager, Paul Streeter. Sponsored by Red Bull, the leader in the energy drink category and The Turks and Caicos Islands Tourism Board, Streeter has showed all of us her strength of mind and body at Club Med Turkoise, Turks and Caicos.
About Turks and Caicos
The 40 islands of the Turks and Caicos, of which eight are inhabited are renowned for their award-winning beaches, diving, fishing and array of first- class resorts and spas. There are 3 daily 75 minute flights from Miami, weekly flights from New York, 1 weekly flight from Boston and a 4 times a week flight with US Airways direct from Charlotte which starts November 2. Turks and Caicos Tourism Board website is http://www.turksandcaicostourism.com.
About Club Med
Club Med is a specialist in all-inclusive vacations, with villages in exotic locations in more than 40 countries worldwide, including the U.S., the Caribbean, Latin America, Europe and Asia. Club Med hosts over two million guests annually and offers its guests the best vacation value. Club Med's first-rate amenities include a variety of leisure, sports (with different levels of instruction), educational and recreational activities, as well as international cuisine, all at your leisure.
h For images and footage of the Record, please contact streetertp@earthlink.net.
SOURCE: Club Med
along the same lines, check out the message from one of my all time favorite buddies/good friends from Austin. Recently cavern certified (NACD/NSS in Florida), she also took a free diving class from a woman in Austin who is the subject of this link. You folks in Austin ought to check this out:
Tanya Kicks Arse!
JC
Saturday August 17, 5:14 pm Eastern Time
Press Release
SOURCE: Club Med
World Champion Freediver, Tanya Streeter Shatters Both Men and Women's World Records at Club Med Turkoise, Turks and Caicos
It has never been this deep!
MIAMI, Aug. 17 /PRNewswire/ -- A new Freediving World Record has been set today in the waters of Club Med Turkoise in Providenciales, Turks and Caicos. World Champion Freediver, Tanya Streeter, reached her goal depth of 160m/525ft in a total dive time of 3 minutes and 26 seconds. This dive shatters the previous women's No Limits World Record held by Canadian, Mandy-Rae Cruickshank (136m/446ft) and even surpasses the men's No Limits World Record of 154m/505ft held by Frenchman, Loic LeFerme. Streeter has clearly shown her determination and passion to prove her psychological and physiological endurance capabilities by redefining her limits!
The dive was officiated by two representatives of Freediving's governing body A.I.D.A.(Association Internationale pour le Developement d'Apnee) who verified that the record was carried out in strict accordance with the No Limits regulations. Streeter also submitted to a test for banned and controlled substances as determined by the International Olympic Committee.
"This was a great day for everyone involved because we have had the chance to do something truly unique in the best possible conditions," commented Streeter. "Working so closely with Club Med, the Turks and Caicos Tourism Board and Red Bull has been a pleasure and an honor for me as an athlete. Sponsors are crucial to success and the success we had today is important for the future of Freediving." She reflected that the dive was "an amazing experience that I will never forget." She continued, "At the bottom, I blew a kiss to the ocean, for the gifts it has given me."
Streeter has reflected the true meaning of Club Med spirit; having fun while accomplishing a goal! As seen on her site http://www.redefineyourlimits.com, Streeter has kept a detailed journal of her daily accounts with the ocean, her trainings, her social experiences, and especially her triumphs on her dives and the Club Med trapeze. She gave detailed descriptions about the sport and the equipment required as well as introducing her team and sponsors. Besides her training regime which included stretching and breathing exercises during sunset, Streeter also swam just like a mermaid in the crystal blue waters of Turks and Caicos and shared her Freediving experiences with guests of Club Med Turkoise during weekly presentations.
The Turks and Caicos Tourism Board also showed Streeter and her team the beauty of its Islands. She was able to go on excursions with Big Blue Unlimited (an eco-diving adventure business) and visit O2 Technical Diving, who provided gas blending services to her deep safety team. She also visited luxurious Parrot Cay.
"The Turks and Caicos Islands is known for being one of the best diving destinations in the world and we have been delighted to work with Club Med Turkoise, the first resort on the Islands," commented John Skippings, director of the Tourism Board and official co-sponsor of the Freediving World Record. "We are proud of Tanya Streeter and her record-breaking achievement in the clear bluewaters that surround our Islands."
EDITOR'S NOTES
With just a single breath of air from the surface, Streeter descended down an officially measured dive rope on a weighted sled. Upon arriving at her target depth, she manually inflated a liftbag that brought her back to the surface. Pairs of safety divers were situated at 80m/262ft, 110m/360ft and 140m/459ft breathing specially blended mixed gasses, together with a pair of scuba divers at the surface and a pair at 40m/131ft. In addition to being fully equipped for their own safety as well as Tanya's, the divers carried metal rods, which they banged together at predetermined depths to let Tanya know exactly what depth she was at during the dive. Tanya completed approximately 10 training dives in the last 3 weeks during her stay at Club Med Turkoise, Turks and Caicos, each getting gradually deeper towards her goal.
Born in the Cayman Islands, Tanya Streeter was educated in one of the most prominent girl's schools in Great Britain, Roedean. She discovered her love of Freediving in late 1997 when accompanying male friends who were spear fishing and complimented her on her natural ability. After twice beating men's world records in two Freediving disciplines, Streeter began to investigate the science behind the sport and was determined to train herself physically and mentally to continuously prove the natural aquatic abilities of mankind. Together with research dives made at Northwest Emergency Recompression Unit in England, and cardio/neuro physiological studies done at Oxford University, the record dive was filmed as part of a documentary series "Extraordinary People" for Channel 5 in the United Kingdom and other American network television. Streeter now lives in Austin, Texas with loving husband and supportive manager, Paul Streeter. Sponsored by Red Bull, the leader in the energy drink category and The Turks and Caicos Islands Tourism Board, Streeter has showed all of us her strength of mind and body at Club Med Turkoise, Turks and Caicos.
About Turks and Caicos
The 40 islands of the Turks and Caicos, of which eight are inhabited are renowned for their award-winning beaches, diving, fishing and array of first- class resorts and spas. There are 3 daily 75 minute flights from Miami, weekly flights from New York, 1 weekly flight from Boston and a 4 times a week flight with US Airways direct from Charlotte which starts November 2. Turks and Caicos Tourism Board website is http://www.turksandcaicostourism.com.
About Club Med
Club Med is a specialist in all-inclusive vacations, with villages in exotic locations in more than 40 countries worldwide, including the U.S., the Caribbean, Latin America, Europe and Asia. Club Med hosts over two million guests annually and offers its guests the best vacation value. Club Med's first-rate amenities include a variety of leisure, sports (with different levels of instruction), educational and recreational activities, as well as international cuisine, all at your leisure.
h For images and footage of the Record, please contact streetertp@earthlink.net.
SOURCE: Club Med
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If I only do the freediving part of the training, I should be safe from embolism, but then aren't I training my body to associate being underwater with holding my breath? Should I exhale while I ascend from a free-dive, even though it's not necessary, in order to re-enforce this habit which is essential for SCUBA?
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train for scuba on scuba, train for freediving, on snorkle. It's really pretty simple, your original post was so amazing I at first assumed you were a troll.
Tom
Tom
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Exhaling an ascent could kill you on a real freedive, at least a deeper one. You'll lose valuable buoyancy and O2 needed to prevent blackout.
You should simply keep freedives and scuba dives separate. When freediving you have a breath holding mind set and might forget to exhale if you breathe compressed air. When scuba diving you have a breathing mind set and you don't hold your breath. I, and many freedivers, have no problem doing either as long as you keep them separate. What I mean is don't switch minute to minute from breath hold to scuba and divers usually remember the appropriate response.
Ralph
You should simply keep freedives and scuba dives separate. When freediving you have a breath holding mind set and might forget to exhale if you breathe compressed air. When scuba diving you have a breathing mind set and you don't hold your breath. I, and many freedivers, have no problem doing either as long as you keep them separate. What I mean is don't switch minute to minute from breath hold to scuba and divers usually remember the appropriate response.
Ralph
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