"For crying out loud, we're just talking about bolts snaps here!"

[BHB ScubaTroll]

For scuba, these would be called suicide clips.

I have no idea what this is... I have none of these on my rig...

 

[Firefyter]

He must use the smack out of those clips. Enough to wear them out
I have 100+ dives on two of my brass clips and they show no wear on the thumb button!

Anyone who dives often enough to actualy wear out a brass thumb button gets my vote for a truly committed diver. (Or he is a professional diver!)

It isn't that the thumb button "wears out", its that the constant action of that button rubbing against the stationary part sharpens those edges enough to slice your thumb wide open. After a long pool session in the rigs at school, my right thumb would come out looking like raw meat due to clipping things off a few times.

The same thing has happened to me on multiple occasions. I'm nowhere near a professional diver, but I have had the hamburger thumb a few times before I figured out what was causing the problem.

 

[BHB ScubaTroll]

For scuba, these would be called suicide clips.

Thanks for the info... can you elaborate why? I've already stated I don't have this type of clip...

To my experience, they only create problems when I attempt to release line from them...

 

[redacted]

The same thing has happened to me on multiple occasions. I'm nowhere near a professional diver, but I have had the hamburger thumb a few times before I figured out what was causing the problem.

I was in the store testing some brass double enders and started giving blood. Apparently the manufacturing process can leave some sharp edges on the sides of the slide. I have smoothed them off and that seems to take care of the problem. In SW, I find I have to lubricate the slides in the brass hardware but the SS hardware does not need anything more than a FW cleaning.

 

[tc]

Thanks for the info... can you elaborate why? I've already stated I don't have this type of clip...

To my experience, they only create problems when I attempt to release line from them...

Clips with spring loaded gates that go inward are known as suicide clips in the tech/wreck/cave diving worlds because they can get snapped over a line accidentally resulting in an unwanted entrapment- bolt snaps are preferred because they can't accidentally hook you onto a line.

 

[BHB ScubaTroll]

Clips with spring loaded gates that go inward are known as suicide clips in the tech/wreck/cave diving worlds because they can get snapped over a line accidentally resulting in an unwanted entrapment- bolt snaps are preferred because they can't accidentally hook you onto a line.

Ya know, I've caught this on regular dives and never thought about it. I just changed them because I got them caught where I didn't want them... duh!

I guess I learned from that by trial and error and didn't even know it... Gracias!

 

[RJP]

Can you elaborate why they are called suicide clips?

To my experience, they only create problems when I attempt to release line from them...

You've answered your own question.

 

[BHB ScubaTroll]

You've answered your own question.

I saw that after the explanation and my response...

 

[Vlane]

Wow this post helps out quite a bit. Was just about to go to HD tomorrow and buy me some snap bolts, thanks for the heads up .

 

[don Francisco]

It isn't a matter of where you shop, or what you pay. It's what you buy. Quality is quality, and crap is crap.

It also pays to know that not all SS is created equal, nor is all brass or bronze. Just because an item is made of SS or brass doesn't mean that it's made of appropriate alloys, or that the spring is.

Buy well made marine grade hardware from reputable vendors and you won't have problems. Otherwise become an expert in metal alloys, and develop the ability to recognize things like an SS spring by sight alone.