Fl Keys accident reports

[ReefHound]

You can buy the articles if you want. But even they are not totally correct and are misleading. I can document all day long. I was interviewed for the story. I know the family and the people that were on the boat and others that were at Oriskany that day. Believe and quote CDNN if you'd like. I don't care.

That's fine. After further research, I've found similar stories. But if you take an honest step back, I'd have been a fool to accept your version - posted anonymously on the internet where your profile is empty and you don't even disclose your name much less credentials as to why you would be in a position to know - over a published and attributed source.

 

[evensplit]

That's fine. After further research, I've found similar stories. But if you take an honest step back, I'd have been a fool to accept your version - posted anonymously on the internet where your profile is empty and you don't even disclose your name much less credentials as to why you would be in a position to know - over a published and attributed source.

The only thing foolish about this thread is that someone charged into a discussion without properly researching it.

I remain mostly anonymous because I like my privacy. If it will make you feel better to know something about me, I've got a lot more dives than I have posts.

 

[DandyDon]

The only thing foolish about this thread is that someone charged into a discussion without properly researching it.

I remain mostly anonymous because I like my privacy. If it will make you feel better to know something about me, I've got a lot more dives than I have posts.

Anonymity is part of message board posting, but it does help to offer either credentials or sources.

I believe that you were posting from first hand experience, which is fine - but not posting here often, additional sources would help.

 

[deepdiver1972]

I recently talked to a guy who closely knew all four of the divers involved in the SG incident. All 4 went in. They didn't run a line because permanent lines had already been run prior to the sinking. One of the divers was known to have extremely poor bouyancy control and likely caused a serious siltout inside but made it out himself. Another diver made it out but realizing his friendslost inside, opted to go back in with only 700psi to try and save his friends. One of the 3 divers was found 12 feet from the staged bottles. Almost made it. A terrible tragedy. My heart goes out to the families. Make no mistake though. These divers were more than qualified to go were they went. It was just a series of fatal mistakes. The worst was going in with single 80's. Gas = time and time = life. Never Ever Violate The Rule of Thirds !!!!!!

 

[Marvel]

I recently talked to a guy who closely knew all four of the divers involved in the SG incident. All 4 went in. They didn't run a line because permanent lines had already been run prior to the sinking. One of the divers was known to have extremely poor bouyancy control and likely caused a serious siltout inside but made it out himself. Another diver made it out but realizing his friendslost inside, opted to go back in with only 700psi to try and save his friends. One of the 3 divers was found 12 feet from the staged bottles. Almost made it. A terrible tragedy. My heart goes out to the families. Make no mistake though. These divers were more than qualified to go were they went. It was just a series of fatal mistakes. The worst was going in with single 80's. Gas = time and time = life. Never Ever Violate The Rule of Thirds !!!!!!

I'm sorry, I must disagree with your statement. Even throwing out the poor gear options & the rule of thirds violation that you cite, if a diver is known to have "extremely poor buoyancy control," as you stated, he is most definitely NOT qualified for wreck penetration since the interior of a wreck contains not only silt, but also rust & other elements which can be easily be dislodged to cause a black out situation.

 

[Diver Dennis]

Hmmm. Very good point Marvel. I was thinking the same thing myself reading that post. What does "more than qualified" mean? With the number of mistakes made, I would have to question that.

 

[nolatom]

It's been a year since ORISKANY was sunk, and many experienced divers commented at the beginning that she was too tempting for rec. divers, and fatalities and chamber rides would inevitably happen.

I don't necessarily disagree, but so far as I'm aware there haven't been any during-dive fatalities (just the one mentioned above, unrelated medical problems post-dive). Is anyone aware of any DCS/chamber treatments? I haven't heard of any.

I dived her last August, you have to watch your gauges like a hawk especially with only a single 80, but evidently divers have been doing that. The dive ops have set standards like minimum AOW, and recency and depth of past dives, and have briefed the divers accordingly.

So knock on wood for sure, but if the above's correct, it's a good record for the first year.

 

[evensplit]

There's only been one published case of DCS while on Oriskany that I know of - there have likely been a couple of non published cases. All of the operators in the area have done a great job of promoting safety on every trip, and so far diligence and professionalism has paid off.

Lets hope it continues!

 

[my1ocean]

The thing that contintinues to get me is the increase from 05 to 06. In 05 we had 10 fatalities and in 06 it jumped to 17. I have no explanation as to why. In many of the cases lack of physical fitness seems to be a contributing factor.

Sadly, IMO, I feel that a great many people have not recieved adequate training, nor do they maintain skills necesarry to dive safely. I'm not really blamming any one individual, but the atmosphere of "dive today" or "become a diver for $95.99" is doing a great injustice to many. And not just the accident victims. There are more and more people coming to dive and snorkle who obviously live pretty sedentary lives. It's a wonderfly enjoyable activity for all in perfect conditions. But if you add some current and a little bit of wind that creates some chop on the water.... I've thought a lot about what a solution might be and can't really come up with anything good or realistic.

 

[my1ocean]

2/4/2006
48
M
Spiegel Grove
Lung Expansion Injury
Scuba Accident
Commercial
New scuba diver with instructor. After 5 minutes at 90', victim started to ascend quickly. Instructor/buddy grabbed BC in attempt to slow victim's ascent. Upon reaching surface, victim went unconscious CPR failed to revive diver. Contributing: Saltwater inhalation. Note: tank had 1573psi remaining.


Wow.