Eon Steel dive computer

[DevonDiver]

Here's my thoughts...

The Best Technical Diving Computers 2016 - (bottom) Suunto Eon Steel

I know a few guys that sold them immediately after getting tech trained. It's only useful as a bottom timer IMHO

 

[Capt Jim Wyatt]

Here's my thoughts...

It's only useful as a bottom timer IMHO

My thought too.

 

[KenGordon]

My thought too.

So are you going to tell your student he can't use it?

 

[KenGordon]

Here's my thoughts...

The Best Technical Diving Computers 2016 - (bottom) Suunto Eon Steel

I know a few guys that sold them immediately after getting tech trained. It's only useful as a bottom timer IMHO

Have you dived this computer?

 

[JohnnyC]

I would let the student use it, but in gauge mode with tables. I dived it once (borrowed a friends) and didn't like it.

I didn't particularly like the interface. I only did one dive so I really can't comment on the algorithm for repetitive diving, but I'm pretty familiar with Buhlmann w/GF, and not a fan at all of RGBM. Whatever their implementation of it is, I'm not interested in diving a bubble model in the first place, let alone one that is proprietary in any manner.

It's just not the technical diving computer that the Shearwaters are.

 

[divezonescuba]

Since RGBM is proprietary, you cannot do the deco computer software practical applications in the same manner as with decoplanner (gue) or multideco.

With a Shearwater and multideco, you can do the deco computer software practical application exercises and have the deco plan match closely using the same ZHLC algorithm and GF settings.

The NAUI people don't have this issue because they have to use the RGBM / NAUI tables and can only use computers in the gauge mode. I would much rather have real time capability if something happens resulting in a deco plan change.

 

[Capt Jim Wyatt]

So are you going to tell your student he can't use it?

No.

 

[KenGordon]

Since RGBM is proprietary, you cannot do the deco computer software practical applications in the same manner as with decoplanner (gue) or multideco.

With a Shearwater and multideco, you can do the deco computer software practical application exercises and have the deco plan match closely using the same ZHLC algorithm and GF settings..

Which agency is this? Are you saying they insist plans are done to a specific ZHL-16C GF setting? Or do they just insist that the dive is planned with a planner? If the later then a Suunto owner gets to plan with DM5 quite happily and doesn't need to pay Ross anything

What kind of person would take on a diver who has an expensive computer and then refuse to teach them how to use it.

Going back to Tec 40. Is that accelerated deco? If not, or if richer mixes are just for an extra safety factor, then any old computer, such as a Zoop, would do.

 

[DevonDiver]

What kind of person would take on a diver who has an expensive computer and then refuse to teach them how to use it.

I don't think anyone said they'd refuse. However, I personally would refuse to be constrained into a deco profile I was uncomfortable with.

Also, I'd be uncomfortable if an actual ascent proved to be different than what'd been planned in advance. If th is happened and, for instance, caused the team to blow their planned gas reserve, I'd consider it a failed dive... and require a repeat. Sucks if that's a computer caused issue...

Going back to Tec 40. Is that accelerated deco? If not, or if richer mixes are just for an extra safety factor, then any old computer, such as a Zoop, would do.

Well, that'd be an awesome tech course, wouldn't it?

Tec40 can be considered a gateway course into full tech. It's a disservice to students to treat it lesser.

Some divers may undertake Tec40 as an 'advanced recreational' course... and have zero intention of progressing into 'full' technical diving. However, if there's any possibility they'd consider progressing in tech, then doing Tec40 'on a Zoop' will leave them under-prepared for their next class.

Of course, the students would have to prepare a detailed deco and gas plan... and they'd have to match what their computer assigned them for ascent/deco. Not found a Zoop deco planning mode yet...

Have you dived this computer?

Have taught several students who used it, and have a few friends who bought it by mistake... Then sold it shortly thereafter (getting tech trained).

 

[divezonescuba]

I see there being a difference between TEC40 and the deep TEC instructor course. You have to both teach and do multiple gases and accelerated deco planning in the deep TEC instructor course.