diverdoug1
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Thanks for the inside info. I will pass it along to her.
Eagles Nest death....
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I figure what everyone else has already known...
We will not see any further evidence or facts come out about this incident. It will be sealed and only a few will know the truth... just like many other deaths in caves over the last few years...
We will not see any further evidence or facts come out about this incident. It will be sealed and only a few will know the truth... just like many other deaths in caves over the last few years...
SuPrBuGmAn
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Learn Something helpfull - fail
Kevin Carlisle
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Because "we" as a cavediver community have allowed it to progress to this point.
LiteHedded
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maybe jim has some IUCRR insight? Jim, aren't you on the iucrr? anything you can add?
Kevin Carlisle
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SuPrBuGmAn
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The IUCRR isn't going to have much/anything to do with Bill's case since there wasn't a recovery I'd think.
While I always connected the IUCRR to accident analysis, there seems to be no REAL connection. Its not in their Mission, or Purpose. Which is good, because within the last several years, they would have FAILED miserably on that aspect.
At this point in time, they are just a single contact point for which the authorities to call when someone's died/missing in a cave/mine/whatever. I don't know how much they are utilized in that extent. I know of one event that was done by a mix of IUCRR and non-IUCRR. I have a feeling that when most of these events occur, divers onsite(IUCRR or not) likely do the best they can to make a recovery with time as a strong consideration - rather than wasting time through some organizational pipeline... which I suppose wouldn't matter for a confirmed dead, but we all hope thats not the case.
Ontop of that, I think you'll get less usefull information(for the public to consume) from an IUCRR than from a non-IUCRR recovery diver. I think they're supposed to not talk to anyone but the authorities. Which is a shame...
I have a feeling without the IUCRR, the same divers would be doing the recoveries anyway... and likely without so many restraints as far releasing information that could play a great role in Accident Analysis.
LiteHedded
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well yea. but maybe he has insight into why they stopped releasing the reports
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ucfdiver
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Bobby Franklin used to be involved in it, I had a conversation with him. Sounds like it's a ton of work to get permission to release them.
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