Dogs & Diving

Do you take your dog with you when you go Diving?

  • Leave at Home.

    Votes: 53 44.2%
  • Leave on Beach.

    Votes: 5 4.2%
  • Leave on Boat.

    Votes: 4 3.3%
  • Goes snorkeling with me!

    Votes: 3 2.5%
  • Thought about getting gear for?

    Votes: 10 8.3%
  • Don't have a Dog...

    Votes: 48 40.0%

  • Total voters
    120

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dvleemin once bubbled...
As for dog attacks, the MAJORITY are caused by ignorance on the part of the person who was bitten. Frequently its kids that approach someone's dog without asking, or pester or tease it. Then when they get bitten, its the dogs fault. All these anti-dog people then get on their high horse are say how dangerous dogs are. Parents who properly teach their kids about dogs don't have this happen to them.

I don't entirely disagree, but I'm not sure about the "majority". I'm not anti-dog, I grew up with a collie. I don't even dislike pit bulls, but there are some really bad owners out there. If you don't own a dog, it's really hard to teach a small child ( 2 to 5) not to touch a dog (or any animal). It's my opinion, that anyone who owns a dog is responsible to teach it to tolerate people, including children, if they're going to take it to public places. Any dog that would bite a child that pets it, does not belong in a public park or street, ever.

My older daughter was bitten twice by the same dog (next door neighbour) on our own property when she was about 4 or 5. First time it broke it's chain, second time it got out the door when someone in the household opened a door. She had never teased the dog, period. First time my brother was close at hand and hauled the dog off. We called the local animal control and they issued a warning (no serious harm). The second time she she screamed and I came running. She needed several stitches in her arm. Called animal control, was told council wasn't willing to pay the court costs to pursue removal of the dog. I was bummed to say the least and made my displeasure unknown. As it happened the daughter of the owner of the local paper's daughter was my younger sister's best friend and he got word. Phoned me, printed a small story which got picked up by local TV station. On air interview, led to an evening pf phone calls from all the town councillors except the mayor, and the dog was removed the next day. Turned out there we 11 previous complaints, 5 from before they moved in next door.
In a similar vein, my 14YO step son has 2 large scars across his cheek. When he was about 8, on the sidewalk 2 doors up, a dog being walked on a leash jumped up at him. The owner held onto the leash, but he raked 2 claws across his face, missed his eye by less than 1/2", needed 6 stitches (2 in one gash, 4 in the other) and will carry those scars for life.
 
Groundhog246 once bubbled...


I don't entirely disagree, but I'm not sure about the "majority". I'm not anti-dog, I grew up with a collie. I don't even dislike pit bulls, but there are some really bad owners out there. If you don't own a dog, it's really hard to teach a small child ( 2 to 5) not to touch a dog (or any animal). It's my opinion, that anyone who owns a dog is responsible to teach it to tolerate people, including children, if they're going to take it to public places. Any dog that would bite a child that pets it, does not belong in a public park or street, ever.

My older daughter was bitten twice by the same dog (next door neighbour) on our own property when she was about 4 or 5. First time it broke it's chain, second time it got out the door when someone in the household opened a door. She had never teased the dog, period. First time my brother was close at hand and hauled the dog off. We called the local animal control and they issued a warning (no serious harm). The second time she she screamed and I came running. She needed several stitches in her arm. Called animal control, was told council wasn't willing to pay the court costs to pursue removal of the dog. I was bummed to say the least and made my displeasure unknown. As it happened the daughter of the owner of the local paper's daughter was my younger sister's best friend and he got word. Phoned me, printed a small story which got picked up by local TV station. On air interview, led to an evening pf phone calls from all the town councillors except the mayor, and the dog was removed the next day. Turned out there we 11 previous complaints, 5 from before they moved in next door.
In a similar vein, my 14YO step son has 2 large scars across his cheek. When he was about 8, on the sidewalk 2 doors up, a dog being walked on a leash jumped up at him. The owner held onto the leash, but he raked 2 claws across his face, missed his eye by less than 1/2", needed 6 stitches (2 in one gash, 4 in the other) and will carry those scars for life.

Sounds to me like you're definately anit-dog. Pretty tough to dispute with these couple of posts. I highly doubt the reason you don't have a dog now is because you're busy.

That being said, if it happened as you say, the attacks are in the minority. I'll be the first one to say that an unpredictable and mean dog needs to be destroyed, or at least probably contained. But for a change can people take responsibility for their own actions once in a while.

Darryl
 
dvleemin once bubbled...

Sounds to me like you're definately anti-dog. Pretty tough to dispute with these couple of posts. I highly doubt the reason you don't have a dog now is because you're busy.

I think a dog deserves more than a couple of hours of companionship a day. Two kids at home, both in school all day. Wife and I work, gone all day. Evenings, you've got shopping, sports, etc. So you have a dog like our neighbours, sits in the house and barks all day everytime someone walks up the sidewalk or everytime we pull into the driveway (has also made a mess in their house while no one was home, so they cage trained it). Summer time, Friday eve we leave for the boat (2 hour drive), spend the weekend on board and sailing. We watch the people with dogs on board making their several times a day walks to shore. One couple described having to anchor and row their dog ashore in the dinghy to 'go'. We also watch their dogs lying in what little shade they can find in 90 degree plus heat. Sunday, we pack up and drive home.

What part of that does a dog fit into? I think us owning a dog would be cruel to said dog. A dog is a pack animal, if no others of it's own around then at least humans to interact with. 8 to 10 hours a day alone is not IMHO, acceptable. It's right up there with people who have kids and then hire others to raise them. Ship em off to the sitters, off to school, off to camp, etc. I have 2 friends with MS whose dogs are well treated (better than some people kids). They're both unable to work and thier dog is an important companion. One is unmarried and his dog is almost his sole companion (he lives too far away for us to visit very often). The other, 2 doors over, is home all day while her husband works and her dog is treated like the child she's not able to have. Both dogs are well behaved (if a bit spoiled) and welcome in our home any time.
 
Groundhog246 once bubbled...


I think a dog deserves more than a couple of hours of companionship a day. Two kids at home, both in school all day. Wife and I work, gone all day. Evenings, you've got shopping, sports, etc. So you have a dog like our neighbours, sits in the house and barks all day everytime someone walks up the sidewalk or everytime we pull into the driveway (has also made a mess in their house while no one was home, so they cage trained it). Summer time, Friday eve we leave for the boat (2 hour drive), spend the weekend on board and sailing. We watch the people with dogs on board making their several times a day walks to shore. One couple described having to anchor and row their dog ashore in the dinghy to 'go'. We also watch their dogs lying in what little shade they can find in 90 degree plus heat. Sunday, we pack up and drive home.

What part of that does a dog fit into? I think us owning a dog would be cruel to said dog. A dog is a pack animal, if no others of it's own around then at least humans to interact with. 8 to 10 hours a day alone is not IMHO, acceptable. It's right up there with people who have kids and then hire others to raise them. Ship em off to the sitters, off to school, off to camp, etc. I have 2 friends with MS whose dogs are well treated (better than some people kids). They're both unable to work and thier dog is an important companion. One is unmarried and his dog is almost his sole companion (he lives too far away for us to visit very often). The other, 2 doors over, is home all day while her husband works and her dog is treated like the child she's not able to have. Both dogs are well behaved (if a bit spoiled) and welcome in our home any time.

Ok ok ok. . .
You don't sound as anti-dog as your first two posts . . . and its refreshing to hear people actually concerned about their dogs mental health. I foster dogs for a shelter (www.nasap.ca) and we so often get dogs who's owner's didn't think of these things.

Darryl
 
First of all: dvleemin is that 2 baby mastiffs I spy? If so, bravo to you for taking on twins of that magnitude, I'll bet the teenage years were a blast if a little trying!!

Second: Janey stays home, she's been boating but didn't really like it; and she's far too much of a princess to go swimming.

If I was shore diving and we had someone I trusted staying behind and the weather was decent, sure I'd bring her along. She's absolutely bulletproof when it comes to dogs, people, kids, and birds (we're still working on cats).

I firmly believe in taking her everywhere I possibly can. She's allowed in the corner store, the coffee shop and the bank and the list keeps growing. I don't see any reason to leave her behind if I don't have to, but because of the boating aversion and the lack of a babysitter for most diving she stays home.

Rachel
 
biscuit7 once bubbled...
First of all: dvleemin is that 2 baby mastiffs I spy? If so, bravo to you for taking on twins of that magnitude, I'll bet the teenage years were a blast if a little trying!!

Second: Janey stays home, she's been boating but didn't really like it; and she's far too much of a princess to go swimming.

If I was shore diving and we had someone I trusted staying behind and the weather was decent, sure I'd bring her along. She's absolutely bulletproof when it comes to dogs, people, kids, and birds (we're still working on cats).

I firmly believe in taking her everywhere I possibly can. She's allowed in the corner store, the coffee shop and the bank and the list keeps growing. I don't see any reason to leave her behind if I don't have to, but because of the boating aversion and the lack of a babysitter for most diving she stays home.

Rachel

Yup,
They're a couple of English Mastiffs. Of course they're a bit bigger now at 14 months old. My male is about 165 pounds, my girl about 135 pounds. Still got quite a bit of growing to do :)

It actually wasn't too bad. Around 9-10 months they acted up a bit, to see how far they could push us, but thats about it. I bring them everywhere I can as well. They love kids and strangers, and pretty much anything else. They've never EVER shown even the least bit of aggression towards anyone. I have pictures of my friends 2 year old 'riding' my male.

Darryl
 
Hi Bisuit7,

Wow, your Janey could be my Tucker's sibling. Is she a mix or a breed I don't recognize? I have some pic's of Tucker at home, that I'll try to post later. He's just a year old, and certainly loved the water last summer. I'm sure that still applies now, if it ever gets warm enough for swimming!

Scuba-sass :-)
 
I have no idea what she is, we found her when she was about 3 months old. Best guess has her as a Rottweiler, Shepherd, maybe Pit bull mix. She's a great dog, if I was in the breed creation business I'd make a whole line of Janey dogs.

Rachel <-- considering cloning her dog
 

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