I just did. Sorry if you are offended. Perhaps you have some 36% lying around. It will make you feel better.Charlie59:
Does nitrox make you feel good?
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yes, and aside from the wise crack, I still don't see an answer.Charlie59:
Keep him honest Howard, I have to take off. I will talk with you later tonight at the secret spot.howarde:
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It is?
Oh, come on. Sure you can quantify a sense or feeling. For your sick example, most people would say that sex on a scale of one to ten carries between an 8 to 10 (depending on spouse vs. "special friend"). Few who enjoy sex would rate less than 6. You might have to test your method, but you can quantify most stuff.
The power comes in double blinding the study so no one can tell which gas is used and if the effect is real or imagined. How so?
Take divers, give air or nitrox, multiple days and even multiple dives. Ask on scale of 1-10 how tired are you after each dive. Compile data and apply statistics. Yep, real rocket science.
The power comes in double blinding the study so no one can tell which gas is used and if the effect is real or imagined. How so?
Take divers, give air or nitrox, multiple days and even multiple dives. Ask on scale of 1-10 how tired are you after each dive. Compile data and apply statistics. Yep, real rocket science.
you won't get arrested.fisherdvm:
Then why are there no studies with empirical data? Which is what EVERYONE screams when people say, "there is no scientific proof that nitrox makes you feel better"Charlie59:
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I've gleaned over the medline search on this topic, the only study noted no statistical difference was on only 11 subjects!!!!
Not to say that this can not be a pilot study... But a good dive shop can exceed the sample size here in less than 1 day!!
I find it incredulous that we are blowing off the subjective feelings of nearly 30 members of scubaboard, because of a double blinded study relying on only 11 subjects.
This would be a relatively easy study to be done by almost any dive shops... The catch is you would have to paint your nitrox tanks and not let your subject know what he/she diving with. And of course, have their dive computers set to nitrox (to restrict their depth), and have them follow conservative dive table for air.
Then randomize the tanks, and get a "subjective" rating after the dive.
When are we going to repeat this study??
Not to say that this can not be a pilot study... But a good dive shop can exceed the sample size here in less than 1 day!!
I find it incredulous that we are blowing off the subjective feelings of nearly 30 members of scubaboard, because of a double blinded study relying on only 11 subjects.
This would be a relatively easy study to be done by almost any dive shops... The catch is you would have to paint your nitrox tanks and not let your subject know what he/she diving with. And of course, have their dive computers set to nitrox (to restrict their depth), and have them follow conservative dive table for air.
Then randomize the tanks, and get a "subjective" rating after the dive.
When are we going to repeat this study??
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