Do not ever say you are a rescue diver

[Ayisha]

The term "master" or "mastery" in education is based on "mastery learning," a concept that has been in education for well over a half century and is most closely associated with Dr. Benjamin Bloom. You can get a description of it here.

Well over half a century indeed. Well over a century in fact since the Montessori pedagogy is a Mastery based approach with a highly sequenced curriculum in all subject areas. Students individually demonstrate mastery in a variety of ways (which are observed and tracked) prior to moving on. Lessons begin with a student demonstrating mastery of a prior lesson.

Your neighbourly Montessori teacher. Carry on.

 

[Mike1967]

Padi recommended recreational limit for an OW certified diver is 40m

Since when?

 

[Blackcrusader]

Since when?

Since I was first certified in 1986 at least and from before that.
Just write to Padi and ask them. Outside of the training environment the recreational limit is 40m.
Padi in any case has no legal authority about any depth limit a person dives to.

You may want to read this or many other threads where certifications and depth are mentioned.

Maltese diving regulation

Your Open Water (OW) certificate (from PADI?) enables you to dive up to 18 m, right?. There is no depth restriction on PADI OW other than recreational limits. There is a recommendation that new divers limit their depth until they gain experience. I don't know if Malta restricts depth...

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PADI AOW qualified depth

Deep dive test that your got Nitrogen narcosis or not at that depth (in instructor manual the deep training dive not deeper than 30 m.). However, the limitation depend on individual. Some got narcosis at 25 m., some still OK at 45 m, But the limitation for recreational diver is 40 m. There are...

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Things Scuba Instructors teach that are either bad or just wrong.

That awful one with pineapple, who thought of that? 🤮 Let us run to 17 pages. Edit: use to us. Pretty sure that was somebody in Hawai'i, and it's delicious. But it is a bit strange to consider that a pizza.

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Old time scuba divers

+ another 1 for @lowwall I was first certified by LA County in 1970, I don't remember if they taught any depth limits. We used USN tables and were aware of deco. We were diving steel 72s with J-valves. I was recertified in 1997 with my 12 year old son by PADI in Grand Cayman. It was suggested...

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[John C. Ratliff]

"Whether you dive with a buddy, or alone, it is wise and prudent to be able to self-rescue, and not depend on a buddy to rescue you. Because there are many scenarios in a buddy-dive where a buddy may not be able to assist."

Is that statement incorrect?

edit: JC Ratcliff seems to describe an instructor/mentor role, which I might consider one of the exceptions. If that understanding wasn't there going into the dive, then I'd consider the other divers unprepared for that dive. For example: Typically, the first time one jumps out of an airplane, they're usually tandem, with someone very competent, but perhaps not competent to do the jump themselves.

Well, SlugMug, I’ve been diving since 1959, and so maybe your description above is correct (“instructor/mentor role”). My first dives were solo in Oregon rivers and lakes. That was before my certification (LA County, 1963). But what you say, “Typically, the first time one jumps out of an airplane, they’re usually tandem, with someone very competent, but perhaps not competent to do the jump themselves,” is incorrect. At least, in 1967, the U.S. Army did not do any tandem jumps at Ft. Benning out of C-119s. And the North Cascades Smokejumper Base also did not do tandem jumps for the first jump In 1972. I use our parascuba jumps as an indicator that in the U.S. Air Force, when we jumped parascuba, we were essentially jumping and diving solo.

SeaRat

 

[pauldw]

What's this thread about?

 

[Blackcrusader]

Since when?

Since even Padi say so

 

[Blackcrusader]

What's this thread about?

 

[Wibble]

The whole "think of every dive is a solo dive" concept, generally refers to a mindset of not depending or relying on other divers to save you. When difficulties strike, there may be no buddy capable of assisting you. There are many reasons why that may happen; incompetence, inattentive buddies, swam-off, out of reach, lost-visual contact, buddy having their own problems, buddy low-on-air, buddy-panic, ultra-low visibility, buddy-communication problems, etc.

It's the simple principle: get your act together so you don't need rescuing or help from others.

A solo mindset means you think about what could go wrong and ensure it doesn't because you do not ass-u-me that someone else will step in to cover up your own issues or incompetence.

With your skills and awareness squared away, you've more opportunity to give attention to others.

 

[John C. Ratliff]

Since even Padi say so

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Recreational diving as taught in the 1970s and 1980s by NAUI was no-decompression diving, to a maximum depth of 40 meters/130 feet FOR A MAXIMUM BOTTOM TIME (TIME FROM THE SURFACE TO THE MAX DEPTH and TIME TO ASCEND) OF 8 MINUTES. Beyond that time at a depth of 130 feet/40 meters, it was a decompression dive, and no longer a sport dive.

We also had a teaching goal to avoid the "knife edge" of the no-decompression limits, meaning that a dive to 130 feet/40 meters, even for 8 minutes, was pushing it for a sport dive, which is now called a recreational dive.

SeaRat

 

[Wibble]

When discussing buddy diving, promoting good buddy procedures should be the point, and the word and concepts of solo should be left to a discussion about solo diving.

If only these techniques were taught to ALL divers from the beginning. Few, for example, seem to worry about positioning and passive signalling techniques.

Being a "buddy" is a two-way thing: you need to make sure you're not loosing contact as well as the other partner in this buddy team.