that DameDykker needed a well deserved holiday to Florida where NetDoc was conveniently ready to teach the NAUI master diver course!
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Hi, Fabulous Dame!
Again, I admire you for diving in such a cold place & am sure you are a wonderful diver after all of that training & experience.
You said 2 things that seem different to me: 1) You want to be a better diver, & 2) you want to instruct.
When my husband took his Instructor Training Course, the first day, they told his class, "This is not to make you a better diver. It is to prepare you to make divers out of non-divers." That is because when you teach, you must be focused on students, not your own skills.
If you feel ready to move into leadership, an AI (Assistant Instructor) or Divemaster class may be appropriate now. In my AI program, I have a 1-to-1 arrangement with an instructor who teaches OW, AOW, Rescue, & Master diver courses. We meet to plan how we will work with the students, and he sometimes assigns me topics to teach under his supervision. I prepare a short lecture, & he interupts me if I make mistakes (it is very important for OW students to hear only accurate information in class.) I help in the pool & ocean. He gives me very small tasks (like escorting students back to shore) and supervises everything. The idea is for me to be as ready as possible for an instructors' course, or just ot work as an AI. This is a NAUI program, too, but maybe other agencies have AI, too. DM is different because you get to work with students with more autonomy and you get to lead groups on dives if they are certified already. With DM, you must have insurance.
I am sorry to hear that your club is dying. How wonderful that you are still moving forward in your own education. If Florida sounds too warm for you, perhaps you can join us here in California & get a Los Angeles County Instructor class!
Again, I admire you for diving in such a cold place & am sure you are a wonderful diver after all of that training & experience.
You said 2 things that seem different to me: 1) You want to be a better diver, & 2) you want to instruct.
When my husband took his Instructor Training Course, the first day, they told his class, "This is not to make you a better diver. It is to prepare you to make divers out of non-divers." That is because when you teach, you must be focused on students, not your own skills.
If you feel ready to move into leadership, an AI (Assistant Instructor) or Divemaster class may be appropriate now. In my AI program, I have a 1-to-1 arrangement with an instructor who teaches OW, AOW, Rescue, & Master diver courses. We meet to plan how we will work with the students, and he sometimes assigns me topics to teach under his supervision. I prepare a short lecture, & he interupts me if I make mistakes (it is very important for OW students to hear only accurate information in class.) I help in the pool & ocean. He gives me very small tasks (like escorting students back to shore) and supervises everything. The idea is for me to be as ready as possible for an instructors' course, or just ot work as an AI. This is a NAUI program, too, but maybe other agencies have AI, too. DM is different because you get to work with students with more autonomy and you get to lead groups on dives if they are certified already. With DM, you must have insurance.
I am sorry to hear that your club is dying. How wonderful that you are still moving forward in your own education. If Florida sounds too warm for you, perhaps you can join us here in California & get a Los Angeles County Instructor class!
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DameDykker
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Hi Capnvik
Thanks for the info. I thought that I might learn more by taking the DM/AI/Instructor cource. But I also thought that I might enjoy introducing these wonderful eksperiences to other people - if more education is not available.
However, I was thinking on doing a warm water diving holliday this autum so - I might take you or NetDoc up on the suggestion/offer. I just have to make certain that I can use the certification here and that taking it in the states is no problem. And then there the insignificant queastion about funding.
Thanks for the info. I thought that I might learn more by taking the DM/AI/Instructor cource. But I also thought that I might enjoy introducing these wonderful eksperiences to other people - if more education is not available.
However, I was thinking on doing a warm water diving holliday this autum so - I might take you or NetDoc up on the suggestion/offer. I just have to make certain that I can use the certification here and that taking it in the states is no problem. And then there the insignificant queastion about funding.
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DameDykker
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Thanks for your help!
This is what I've desided so far. I'm going to retake the first aid cource + DAN oxygen and then the so called emergency response diver at the LDS where I did the RD (PADI) In the mean time they swiched to NASE. I figured that more safety was never wasted. Afterwards I might take the AI course.
And they offered me to retake the RD free of charge (cert in 1996)! So if works allows I'll do that.
However, the warm water trip is still somewhere in the future, so I could do the Masterdiver, NAUI in Florida??
This is what I've desided so far. I'm going to retake the first aid cource + DAN oxygen and then the so called emergency response diver at the LDS where I did the RD (PADI) In the mean time they swiched to NASE. I figured that more safety was never wasted. Afterwards I might take the AI course.
And they offered me to retake the RD free of charge (cert in 1996)! So if works allows I'll do that.
However, the warm water trip is still somewhere in the future, so I could do the Masterdiver, NAUI in Florida??
I have no clue about NAUI, but if you want to take the AI course with PADI you certainly need to be DM or equivalent.
Medic First Aid needs to be renewed every two years if you go pro, although I think you can take with other first aid organizations (Red Cross for example).
Medic First Aid needs to be renewed every two years if you go pro, although I think you can take with other first aid organizations (Red Cross for example).
Hi Dame,
Have fun with the courses. Regards your club, if its anything like BSAC or SSAC the average membership turnover is around 100% every 4 years. Without the branch volunteer infrastructure and a commitment to recruitment and training, they close.
Hi Cap, I can't say I totally agree with you regarding instructing. I think task repition is an important part of improving and maintaining ability. Air share, buddy breathing, shared ascents, rescue lifts, tows and diving first aid are amongst the skills not practiced in general diving, but are safety skills taught as part of the club sport diver program; occasionally assisting a novice diver by demonstrating, instructing and assessing, keeps you sharp. Its also the only way our amatuer clubs survive, those trained progress in turn and help others.
Have fun with the courses. Regards your club, if its anything like BSAC or SSAC the average membership turnover is around 100% every 4 years. Without the branch volunteer infrastructure and a commitment to recruitment and training, they close.
Hi Cap, I can't say I totally agree with you regarding instructing. I think task repition is an important part of improving and maintaining ability. Air share, buddy breathing, shared ascents, rescue lifts, tows and diving first aid are amongst the skills not practiced in general diving, but are safety skills taught as part of the club sport diver program; occasionally assisting a novice diver by demonstrating, instructing and assessing, keeps you sharp. Its also the only way our amatuer clubs survive, those trained progress in turn and help others.
It will be fun, and very informative!
sheck33
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If you want to learn how to make divers out of non-divers than i'd suggest a DM course followed by the AI course. These courses do not make you better diver however.
If YOU want to become a better diver i'd strongly suggest the
DIR Fundamentals class! If that doesnt teach you more than OW, AOW and rescue put together i'll apologize for suggesting it in the first place
:boom:
landlocked
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DIR Fudamentals
Helsinki August 6-8
Austria August 30- September 1
Sweden September 5-8
It seems to address exactly what you have stated to be your goals. Just don't go getting all brainwashed and stuff!
By the way, do you have any relatives in Bornholm? Maybe were cousins. (Just Kidding. Sort of.)
Helsinki August 6-8
Austria August 30- September 1
Sweden September 5-8
It seems to address exactly what you have stated to be your goals. Just don't go getting all brainwashed and stuff!
By the way, do you have any relatives in Bornholm? Maybe were cousins. (Just Kidding. Sort of.)
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DameDykker
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sheck33
I'll check that DIR fundamentals. Do you have a link?
landlocked
No relatives on Bornholm. Are you a secret Dane?
As for brainwashed - some people will imply that I don't have any
Anyway I'm probaply a little to mature (read
ld) to swallow anything hole.
NetDoc
Thank you for your wellcome. However, I don't now when and where I'll go. It just have to be warm for a change
I'll check that DIR fundamentals. Do you have a link?
landlocked
No relatives on Bornholm. Are you a secret Dane?
As for brainwashed - some people will imply that I don't have any
Anyway I'm probaply a little to mature (readld) to swallow anything hole.NetDoc
Thank you for your wellcome. However, I don't now when and where I'll go. It just have to be warm for a change
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