Sigh, there's a hatch in the top, this really bright orange ball of fire called the SUN provides enough light.
I'm done here guys. Enjoy your thread.
I'm done here guys. Enjoy your thread.
Diver dies in Richmond, TX while cleaning water tank
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Done enough here, huh? Well, the purpose of this forum is to learn how to avoid similar accidents, not convict - Texas has a court system for the latter of course.
If it was his first dry suit dive tho, no way he should have been in that tank alone. Getting inverted the first time was not a problem for me, but I can see panic as a risk.
If it was his first dry suit dive tho, no way he should have been in that tank alone. Getting inverted the first time was not a problem for me, but I can see panic as a risk.
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Perhaps.. but then how do you ever dive? If you cannot dive without knowing how to dive.. you can never dive.. how do you learn? Slow and steady? Being taught? So couldn't you just as easily argue that with at least some basic experience under his belt, assuming his employer was aware of his qualifications, or at least, assuming he thought his employer was aware of his qualifications, that -WITH DIRECTION-, he was qualified to go.. he was obviously not qualified to do it by himself, but it was his first day after all.. who knows 100% how to do their job on their first day? So, would it be reasonable he was in their when he thought he was being taught, and he thought he was starting slow? I mean he didn't go to.. some deep sea.. job..
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Will you stay, please? There are more than just one persons posting and asking you questions in here...
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Had this diver ever done a night dive? A cave or overhead dive? Was he even cavern certified? Was he drysuit certified? This may have been 30 feet crystal clear water but it appears that it was also an overhead, dark environment and possibly his first drysuit dive, first dive with a pony, first dive with a vacuum. He was task overloaded.
ItsBruce
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Going through the basic open water ("OW") training and getting a certification means a diver has the basis skills to get into the water and dive. However, failing to regularly practice those skills will almost always result in a diver being unable to perform them when needed. This is especially the case with relatively inexperienced divers. Even a diver with hundreds of dives, who has not dived in a year or two or who has only dived a few times over the course of a few years, should not be diving without some sort of refresher by a qualified instructor. It is even worse with a new diver.
I do not mean to seem harsh. But, if I were on a dive boat, doing a recreational dive in an easy location, and the dive master wanted to buddy me up with a diver who had only been certified for a year or two and had not been diving recently, I would decline on the basis that the potential buddy was not safe to be diving.
This is the reason that dive operators who cater to divers who dive once or twice a year while on vacation tend to send those divers out with dive masters, if not instructors.
So, yes, I firmly believe that Travis should not have even been in a swimming pool for fun without an instructor.
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I guess I misunderstood the environment. Somebody sid it was dark, zero vis, with a hatch. I'm thinking a water tank with a top on it and nobody saw what was happening to him inside must have at least been somewhat "cavern" like.
Tracy, here is a link showing the recovery effort. It may help you understand the environment a bit better: Worker Dies After Trapped in Water Tank
It is a water tank, and it does have a hatch on top. The top would be open while working and natural daylight would be available inside, not completely dark. Unless water was all the way to the top of tank, there would be a breathable air space at the waters surface, that vents to the outside through the hatch. In other words, there would be no barrier preventing him from coming to the surface and breathing while inside the tank.
It is a water tank, and it does have a hatch on top. The top would be open while working and natural daylight would be available inside, not completely dark. Unless water was all the way to the top of tank, there would be a breathable air space at the waters surface, that vents to the outside through the hatch. In other words, there would be no barrier preventing him from coming to the surface and breathing while inside the tank.
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I agree with what you say above... but it's still considered a "confined entry space" by OHSA, etc.
At work when we have people enter storage tanks, they have to follow "confined entry rules" with safety tethers, etc. It's a big deal.
The fact that they didn't pay attention to this guy in a confined space (regardless if he was diving), is a big deal.
In another question... so they put a guy diving in potable drinking water?
and then they leave the water in the tank and allow it to be delivered to households/businesses for drinking? sure their is some rule against this?
I mean do you want some guy who might not have showered swimming in your drinking water? what if he pee's in his wetsuit? cause you know somewhere they have!
serious question.....
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