Diver dead after accident in Lake Ontario near Oakville

[Jay Roy]

Good thing I'm not holding my breath for that updated OUC report..

 

[NorthernPike]

In the absence of facts, rumours abound.

 

[pearldive]

The fund raiser for our friend is tomorrow at the Welland Scuba park. More info can be found at the Dans Dive Shop facebook page or the store web site.

If seems that most of the comments on this thread are related to experience/commercial operation?/ and our southern friends concerns about water depth/temp/vis.
All those concerns are valid but I doubt there will be any more info coming from the local media or authorities. They have stated drowning as a cause.There will not be any other info released. The dive gear results will not be made public...to anyone. If Eric and the other diver is smart, or has been told by the Police, they will not talk to anyone. A death in an Ontario Commercial passenger operation will likely have an inquest. Any info released now could tarnish the real info from being given then. I would suggest to all of you to perhaps be patient and if and when an inquest is called you will find out what happened. If there is a lawsuit towards the commercial operation it must be filed before Sept 1st 2012

 

[divebutt]

It is always very tragic when these things happen. People must learn they can only dive to their training and expeirence. Anyone with a pocket full of money can buy course after course after course, what people need to realize you must also take time to gain some personal expeirence. Charter operators need to tighten up and check certifications and only people to dive to their certifications. People get too complacent with diving, the gear is practically fail-safe, the computers are all you really need to find out safe deco schedules, they are very advanced as we know. I see these people with the "who needs a course" to know how to do hard core dives, it's hopefully not a trend of deep diving to come. The most important thing these courses teach is emergency preparedness, that's what lacks in these hot dog divers.

You hit the nail on the head. There is absolutely no substitution for experience.

Second to that, people need to think more about what they're getting themselves into and if it's really for them. Some people are fine with recreational limits and technical limits, while others may realize that technical diving is not for them. No instructor wants to fail a student, but from time to time it may be a necessary thing to do to protect the instructors liability and the students life. No instructor is going to hold back a competent diver. If you fail, there's a reason why. Time to get more experience and try again later.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[adiverswife]

You hit the nail on the head. There is absolutely no substitution for experience.

Second to that, people need to think more about what they're getting themselves into and if it's really for them. Some people are fine with recreational limits and technical limits, while others may realize that technical diving is not for them. No instructor wants to fail a student, but from time to time it may be a necessary thing to do to protect the instructors liability and the students life. No instructor is going to hold back a competent diver. If you fail, there's a reason why. Time to get more experience and try again later.

Just my 2 cents.

Divebutt and divereh you have no clue what you are talking about he is not here to defend himself please do not spread lies!!!! you did not know him or how hard he worked to get where he was, this was not a first dive it was one of many of this depth he did not pay to get to where he was it was practice and hard work.(trust me there was no MONEY)that statement is as low as you!!!you may know many that have and they may be your friends.Do not post what you do not know his family has lost a great man,husband father,brother, son uncle.People get hurt when lies are spread they get around then a child is in tears because their Father was not respected by inconsiderate heartless ass's keep your 2 cents for all that it is worth to yourself and respect the Diver and his family.He was experienced and was where he should have been it was tragic what happen. All of you that are saying you are looking for answers to save another is a lie. Keep your lies to yourself and your mouth shut without facts!!!!!!!!!

 

[adiverswife]

Country Diver Just wondering what gives you the expertise to quote it was an avoidable tragedy
would like to hear your facts that could save another

 

[adiverswife]

He was not an expert technical diver....nor a technical diver. He was an advanced open water diver. Things like this are going to ruin the diving industry and screw with people who dive safely.

Country Diver just to help you out on your facts as you seem to like to make them up he was an experienced diver he knew what he was doing I ask you please stop spreading what you do not know. If all anyone wants is answers to help why is so many doubting the diver before facts are out i would truly like to know as I am sure many do.so what would be said if all the facts were posted on how qualified he was and it was an equipment error how fast would apologizes be spread. I say not many.... sad.......

 

[adiverswife]

Very sad news to hear,

If the person who passed away is the fellow that I knew (no names have been released), very tragic. He was not any where near prepared for a dive to 145' with any sort of DECO obligation. Very poor judgment. Hopefully all the facts will somewhat come out and clear things up.

You do not know that so please do not spread it

 

[adiverswife]

here here.

Nothing is being hidden or glossed over the family has been hurt enough and no matter how much info is going to come out someone is negative. The diver was a DAD we need to think of what is said for the children how will what happen to him help you or others ? just would like to know as I read there are so many untrue facts out there do they realy need more to pick apart??

 

[Stoo]

Hi adiverswife, and welcome to ScubaBoard. It's unfortunate that this accident is the reason for your introduction to this forum.

I truly hope that you are not "T's" wife. If so, my heartfelt condolences, but having said that, you should leave this thread and never come back. As you have already read, there is no shortage of "experts" here and it can make for some unpleasant reading for those close to the deceased.

If you are a friend of his (and it sounds like that is more likely the case) then take what you read here with a grain of salt. No matter the topic, there are always people here that say completely ridiculous things. When the topic is something as unfortunate as this one, these thoughtless posts can be painful to those directly involved.

In time, everyone hopes that something good will come from these "enquiries", but in my experience, that isn't usually the case. These are accidents, and while sometimes there are extenuating circumstances that contributed to the cause, most of the time, the cause is just plain bad luck.

Regardless of your relationship to "T" please take some people's comments here with a grain of salt. No one intends to hurt those close to him, but I think that they they sometimes forget that their comments might be read by people directly involved.