Disturbing trend in diving?

[TMHeimer]

How is that different in an OW class?

It's a lot different. For one, OW class checkout (ocean/lake, etc.) dives are after maybe 8 hours of pool training in the most benign of settings possible. As well, even with courses that are taught "kneeling", there still is usually time to just swim around in the pool to figure out buoyancy. On a cruise I was on before I was certified I could have taken a DSD-- they were doing the 1 hour training in the ship's pool. Not enough for me-- I took the snorkeling tour instead.

 

[Leatherboot69]

No one has still yet explained why if DSDs are so dangerous why DSD customers don’t die in large numbers and we don’t hear about more law suits.

 

[Leatherboot69]

It sometimes feels like some SBers want recreational scuba diving to be harder and more dangerous than it actually is, to validate their own choices of training, equipment and style of diving.

 

[Leatherboot69]

By way of comparison, (according to ChatGPT), DSDs have a similar fatality rate (I.e 0.89 per 100,000 participants) to hiking, cycling, jogging, recreational skiing, open water swimming, all of which are classed as ‘low risk’.

 

[Leatherboot69]

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It's a lot different. For one, OW class checkout (ocean/lake, etc.) dives are after maybe 8 hours of pool training in the most benign of settings possible. As well, even with courses that are taught "kneeling", there still is usually time to just swim around in the pool to figure out buoyancy. On a cruise I was on before I was certified I could have taken a DSD-- they were doing the 1 hour training in the ship's pool. Not enough for me-- I took the snorkeling tour instead.

Which is why in an OW training dive you can have one instructor to eight students, in up to 18m of water. In DSDs limitations are imposed to ensure safe practice: they only do one pool/CW dive (which is effectively the first pool dive of OW, if conducted to OW standards, which is not mandatory) and thus are limited to 12m in easy conditions within 2 weeks of their pool dive, 1 DM to 2 customers, and (I think) can only dive with the instructor and/or DM who conducted their pool dive. Sounds like legit safe risk management to me