Hey hello!
I've just finish to read all this forum :
http://www.scubaboard.com/forums/ac...rious-safety-concerns-dangerous-incident.html
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Albion says : We mentioned this to dive crew who were rather blasé. Later, on the boats (this is mainly single tank diving and only 15-30mins to dive sites) the crew both boat and dive were smoking heavily. On our second dive, the passengers had not yet all returned to the boat, but some dive crew were already smoking on the boat, one next to my BCD. When this was commented on, the guy replied “so you think you make the rules now?” Both their boats used outboard engines and usually the crew would be sat around the engines / fuel tanks smoking. One of the boats (wooden) had a lot of ‘water’ in the bilge which smelt heavily of fuel.
As the owners were leaving for a Europe the next day, one of the group, who has a back ground in HSE and importantly in gasses, spoke with the owner. At first he looked for an opportunity to discredit our background (how many dives, what certification level etc). Having failed to find a way to BS his way out of this he said. I don’t have a safety problem, I’m not going to change and if you don’t like it you can go else where.
We decided to carry on, and take note of our own safety.
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CFZ says :
Early in our trip we raised safety issues around smoking, diving, and boat operations with the resort owner. His response in summary was - if we didn’t like the resort we could leave.
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Well, when I dived there months ago, one day I remember we were in the speed boat, and pass very very close and very fast than the boat from another dive operator. If some diver goes out from water, of course he will die. We pass arround 15 knots and less than 5 mts of the boat that was stopped waiting for divers.
That's just crazy. If you do this in Europe, you go jail.
Well, the point is, when we arrived I spoke with Ton. I explain him what the driver of his boat do, and the answer was (more or less the same Ton give Albion and to Cfz) :
Who are you for judge that situation?
How experienced are you sailing boats?
I managed this diving center, if you don' t like, just go.
How can you know if that is or not is correct?, Are you a captain?
Well, the funy thing here is I'm boat captain. I worked as professional many many years. Please, if you have some doubts, have a look to my certifications.
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I told him, yes I'm boat captain. And Ton replied, SURE!!, jajajaa, me too!!
That was the moment to decided, or hit him or leave Lumba Lumba. I decided to leave Lumba Lumba and avoit to visit and indonesian prison.
The point here is to smoke in front of the compressor room, or sail very fast and close to other boat that was wainting for divers, is crazy.
You don't need to be captain or Albert Einstein, is just logical.
The answer that Ton/Marjan give, are always same, this shows what kind of people they are.
Some months ago I advise all of you : Problems with air. Safety problems.
Some weeks later, the boat explote.
I advise, this people will kill someone one of this days. For sure, is a logical consecuence.
Ton, Marjan, and two of they divemaster Jim/Tore are dangerous, really dangerous.
I have raised my concerns with PADI, DAN, SSI, ACUC, Lonely Planet, I've reported to the police, etc.
You go for holidays, for have fun, for be relaxed, and you can find death.
Well I think this is all.
Good dives to everyone!!