DAN reports RB deaths up 300%!

[Papa_Bear]

The newest DAN report say Rebreather deaths up by 300% in the last decade! Problems with gas leaks, O2 Toxicity, different depths on one dive not calculated for properly! Is this because of the increased number of Rebreathers or poor instruction? Is training in depth enough for the conditions they are being used?

 

[Meng_Tze]

If one diver died a decade ago, and three died last year..... that would be 300%. Now if we can have a number based on how many RB divers there are, it would be more meaningful to me.

I think that RB's are far more in play now than even 5 years ago. With more people diving the units, chances are that more people will die (in absolute terms). But how many died because of RB instigated events and what is the percentage against total number of RB divers and maybe even total number of divers?

Saying that RB deaths are up 300% is not meaningful other than perhaps scaremongering. I have not read that report, so It could be that the numbers are relative. Do you have a link?

 

[Zeeman]

Could not have said it better myself. The thread title sounds like something your typical politician would say...

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[wedivebc]

The newest DAN report say Rebreather deaths up by 300% in the last decade! Problems with gas leaks, O2 Toxicity, different depths on one dive not calculated for properly! Is this because of the increased number of Rebreathers or poor instruction? Is training in depth enough for the conditions they are being used?

Is that per unit sold or direct numbers? Since there are 10 times as many RBs out there that sounds like an improvement.
Can you post a link to this report so we can check your facts?

 

[wedivebc]

But how many died because of RB instigated events and what is the percentage against total number of RB divers and maybe even total number of divers?

No kidding, if someone has a heart attack while diving RB its a statistic. If that same person dies while buying groceries they don't call it a shopping accident.

 

[Papa_Bear]

According to DAN the numbers of North American Diver deaths with RB rose from 1% to 5% of total diver deaths. The studied 80 deaths in the the period 1998 to 2004! The study is interesting citing simple mistakes indication lack of procedure or overloading of required tasks! "Gas leaks, wrong mix for depth, Hypoxia, and Toxicity"! Is this a break down of training or procedure? BTW Heart attacks were not a part of the study that I could find?

 

[JeffG]

According to DAN the numbers of North American Diver deaths with RB rose from 1% to 5% of total diver deaths. The studied 80 deaths in the the period 1998 to 2004! The study is interesting citing simple mistakes indication lack of procedure or overloading of required tasks! "Gas leaks, wrong mix for depth, Hypoxia, and Toxicity! Is this a break down of training or procedure?

I guess you didn't learn from your first post.

% doesn't mean very much (especially in very low sampling rates)

As far as training goes...why should it be any different than OW training? Some good...some criminally bad.

 

[cool_hardware52]

If that same person dies while buying groceries they don't call it a shopping accident.

What if they were shopping for RB supplies?

Tobin

 

[Tomeck]

The newest DAN report say Rebreather deaths up by 300% in the last decade! Problems with gas leaks, O2 Toxicity, different depths on one dive not calculated for properly! Is this because of the increased number of Rebreathers or poor instruction? Is training in depth enough for the conditions they are being used?

Do you have a link for this DAN report?

 

[Papa_Bear]

The report is available to all DAN members at their site!