Damn that HURT

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Holding that turtle shows a lot of skill and bravery. They can be a handful of trouble. When I find them on my road or yard, I carefully move them closer to the water, but when I find poisonous snakes in my house or yard, I get rid of them. There's just too much risk for my family and me. Around here, that's politically correct.
 
Interesting the different standards. In the mainly land-based recreation of 'field herping' (searching out reptiles & amphibians in the wild), to uncover, capture, pose with & pose an animal for examination or photography before release is widely accepted. If I wade into a creek or stream & grab a common snapping turtle, rat snake or what-not, hold it up while a buddy takes pictures, etc..., hardly anybody challenges that.

But you touch a sea creature and you're the terror of the ecosystem! I'm not sure where the proper balance lies, but from what I understand we create considerable disturbance just by diving & finning around the habitat blowing bubbles.

Richard.

Well, of course. It is an entirely different situation when you are using "compressed air", you know. The biggest difference is those who are compelled to play nanny.

But one does need to have some appreciation of the difference between touching and harming.

---------- Post added July 12th, 2015 at 10:08 AM ----------

Rich, while you're younger than I am, regardless, things have changed in this old world. The reson those snakes and turtles are so illtempered is because they just want to be left alone and their "fight or flight" response has been triggered. Ya I'm just a hippocritical omnivore but don't see any reason at all not to respect the physical if not planning to eat.

One reason - LEARNING
 
Thanks. Loved the big squid school at the end.


Thanks, I gotta admit, my 16 yr old son took that video.. a hero 3 plus mounted on a scrap piece of pvc pipe..
 
I will point out that handling sea turtles or snakes is not the same as handling/touching many sea creatures. The outer skin/shell of a snake is built to rub against dry stuff. So if you pick one up correctly you are not going to hurt it or you. On the other hand many sea creatures have a protective coat of slime that if it is damaged can lead to infection and it can be damaged by say contact with a glove.
 
Looks like you were checking out a bat fish & got nailed in the leg by 'something.' But I didn't see what.

Interesting the different standards. In the mainly land-based recreation of 'field herping' (searching out reptiles & amphibians in the wild), to uncover, capture, pose with & pose an animal for examination or photography before release is widely accepted. If I wade into a creek or stream & grab a common snapping turtle, rat snake or what-not, hold it up while a buddy takes pictures, etc..., hardly anybody challenges that. Like so:

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But you touch a sea creature and you're the terror of the ecosystem! I'm not sure where the proper balance lies, but from what I understand we create considerable disturbance just by diving & finning around the habitat blowing bubbles.

Richard.
I've been a tin flipper and dedicated herper since the Eisenhower Administration, in many states and especially in the Caribbean. Here in NJ we are not permitted to touch any reptiles excepting those few, like snapping turtles, that can be legally captured if you have a fishing license. People who have been bitten by one of our numerous Timber Rattlers are routinely given a game law violation summons because they "harassed or handled " the protected creature. It's amusing watching a NJ herper trying to get a pic of a moving Pine Snake without breaking the law.

Our reptiles are vanishing here in NJ, but at the hands of real estate developers and associated road building, sewer lines, and dropping water tables. And people. Too damn many people.

I have a couple of marine aquaria, and catch my own fish, mostly here in NJ when the Gulf Stream brings lots of juvenile tropicals to local jetties and inlets. Collecting can easily be done without damaging the environment in any way.

Some self-appointed guardians of the marine environment would do more good haranguing people fertilizing their lawns, buying waterfront houses, and destroying sea grass beds by dock building and dredging.

Nice Black Rat.
 
Geez, DD, I thought you had a hook in your leg! But I dunno, is it karma for trying to puff a puffer? ;) OK I know it's a batfish but you know what I mean.

No, I don't take any pleasure in a person getting hurt the way you did. And those scrapes could be problematic for long time too. Hope that isn't the case.
I'm not gunna lie I totally take pleasure in seeing people do dumb **** and get mildly hurt.. nuthin gets my jollies rolling like good ol shot to the croch from a banister... bahahaha

Sent from my galaxy S5 Active.
 

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