Warthaug
Contributor
Attention Mike Ferrara
I know this is a minor point, and not really relevant to much, but if you recall I earlier mentioned that some preachers/churches seem to have an anti-science theme to them.
The below is an excellent example of what I mean. I realize this guy is probably not a priest/decon/paster/padre/..., but these attitudes probably came from one
Now, for my reply to the above.
This is probably the most hateful and spiteful thing written so far. It is also probably the most ignorant as well. Don't believe me, replace the word "science" with "Christian", "Jew", "Women" or any group you want. Doesn't read so nicely, does it?
As a scientist all I can say is the above is very hurtful, ignorant, and obviously based on nothing more than pure, unadulterated hate. Strangely enough, it also embodies many of the characteristics you so readily assign to science.
At the end of the day, each and every scientist on this earth has their own reasons and motivations for what we do. Most of us, myself included, pursue our research out of simple curiosity of the way in which the world functions. That my work has lead, and hopefully will continue lead, to better treatment for diseases is an added benefit.
So science is a uniquely american thing now?
Of course it doesn't, and the fact you seem to think it should shows that you lack a fundamental understanding of what science is. Science is simply the understanding of the universe in which we live through the empirical observation of the universe.
As in, science is based solely on observable FACTS. Beliefs are the relm of faith; science is about evidence and proof.
Strange, that such a closed minded thing, has done so much good for humanity...
Given your posts in this thread to date, the answer is clearly "offthewall1". After all, you're parroting anti-science propaganda that even most creationist organization say not to use, as it is demonstratively incorrect. Like wise, it is blatantly obvious you lack working knowledge of what constitutes a scientific theory, how science works, or how conclusions are derived.
Not to mention you "logic" is massively flawed, and would be more accuratly termed "anti-logic".
And since you choose to ignore what is in front of you, what can we conclude about your mind?
Science is a product of the human mind, meaning it is as powerful as the minds behind it.
Give us time, as we're well along the road to do so - we're mapping neural pathways, understanding how impulses become thoughts, and are beginning to understand the roots of memory.
Wow, good counter-evidence. "Spew". So by your logic, if I go "God? That is spew" I've now concretely disproven the existence of god...
Yet. But if conjecture is correct, and there is a TOE*, than one day we may be able to do just that.
TOE, in this case = "theory of everything", not "theory of evolution"
Those are part of science. Maybe you should learn a little about science first, before you spout off. Cause the above claim just made you look pretty dumb.
How the hell did you come up with the above? Science most certainty does not make any of those claims - they are purely of your own imagination.
Bryan
I know this is a minor point, and not really relevant to much, but if you recall I earlier mentioned that some preachers/churches seem to have an anti-science theme to them.
The below is an excellent example of what I mean. I realize this guy is probably not a priest/decon/paster/padre/..., but these attitudes probably came from one
One also might add that science has been created by close minded individuals - as it is only those with closed minds who are argumentative against ethics, morals, values and truths. Science is nothing more than a closed minded persons argument against all that is right in the world and is difintively the downfall of American culture.
Now, for my reply to the above.
This is probably the most hateful and spiteful thing written so far. It is also probably the most ignorant as well. Don't believe me, replace the word "science" with "Christian", "Jew", "Women" or any group you want. Doesn't read so nicely, does it?
As a scientist all I can say is the above is very hurtful, ignorant, and obviously based on nothing more than pure, unadulterated hate. Strangely enough, it also embodies many of the characteristics you so readily assign to science.
At the end of the day, each and every scientist on this earth has their own reasons and motivations for what we do. Most of us, myself included, pursue our research out of simple curiosity of the way in which the world functions. That my work has lead, and hopefully will continue lead, to better treatment for diseases is an added benefit.
It is why Americans become more hated everyday.
So science is a uniquely american thing now?
We live in a world of great beliefs (religions who honor God/s) - for which science has none.
Of course it doesn't, and the fact you seem to think it should shows that you lack a fundamental understanding of what science is. Science is simply the understanding of the universe in which we live through the empirical observation of the universe.
As in, science is based solely on observable FACTS. Beliefs are the relm of faith; science is about evidence and proof.
Science is all created by close-minded humans... tunnelvisionists with their eyes buried in test tubes and such... which makes it nothing more than close minded human theory.
Strange, that such a closed minded thing, has done so much good for humanity...
I know your arguments better than you do. Who can't comprehend simpleton science?
Given your posts in this thread to date, the answer is clearly "offthewall1". After all, you're parroting anti-science propaganda that even most creationist organization say not to use, as it is demonstratively incorrect. Like wise, it is blatantly obvious you lack working knowledge of what constitutes a scientific theory, how science works, or how conclusions are derived.
Not to mention you "logic" is massively flawed, and would be more accuratly termed "anti-logic".
Your mind needs to expand beyond that which is in front of you.
And since you choose to ignore what is in front of you, what can we conclude about your mind?
The mind is more powerful than science
Science is a product of the human mind, meaning it is as powerful as the minds behind it.
- which is why with all of our great science, no one has figured out the complexity of the human mind.
Give us time, as we're well along the road to do so - we're mapping neural pathways, understanding how impulses become thoughts, and are beginning to understand the roots of memory.
What makes us individuals. Genetics? That is spew. Genetics in combination with environment? That is spew.
Wow, good counter-evidence. "Spew". So by your logic, if I go "God? That is spew" I've now concretely disproven the existence of god...
The reality is that science still can't predict the direction of my next step...
Yet. But if conjecture is correct, and there is a TOE*, than one day we may be able to do just that.
TOE, in this case = "theory of everything", not "theory of evolution"
Logic and deductive reasoning will beat science in any given circumstance.
Those are part of science. Maybe you should learn a little about science first, before you spout off. Cause the above claim just made you look pretty dumb.
It is why humanity reigns supreme... for if not, science would tell us that we would be overrun by the Lions and Tigers and Bears...as humans alone are certainly not by design the highest animal on the food chain.
How the hell did you come up with the above? Science most certainty does not make any of those claims - they are purely of your own imagination.
Bryan