Cozumel Incident 9/4/11

[DandyDon]

I haven't seen Heath referred to as a divemaster. Of course with the number of post on the different thread I may have misse it.

I doubt that he is, with any agency. He could be with another but who cares. I have a Scientific Diver card from one. This dive was done as a private adventure so it doesn't matter what cards who gave whom.

 

[WSOPFAN]

They don't need to be, and their web site does not say they are. It says that they offer PADI instruction through independent PADI instructors, and it says they also offer NAUI and SSI instruction.

There are dive shops I know in my area that offer tech instruction. When you ask them about it, they all refer you to the same independent tech instructor. There is nothing wrong with that.

Yup ....I was correcting my previous post when I mistakenly referred to the shop as "professionally affiliated" just because they do PADI instruction. I was aware of the levels of affiliation but not the fact that you don't have to actually have an affiliation.

 

[Mossman]

Ok so PADI customer service said:

5) Heath Hood is certified PADI Rescue Diver/Nitrox.

It would appear by that information that Heath is not a divemaster. Any former or future posts indicating he is would be incorrect.

I can understand PADI providing information about professional certifications, but did they really divulge the certification status of a non-professional just on your asking? That's hardly very professional of them.

 

[MXGratefulDiver]

I can understand PADI providing information about professional certifications, but did they really divulge the certification status of a non-professional just on your asking? That's hardly very professional of them.

... unless WSOPFAN is a PADI professional, calling to verify the certification status of a diver.

It's easy to defame someone from behind the curtain of internet anonymity ... but the vehemence at a personal level in this case causes me to wonder if there's an ulterior motive ...

Competitor, perhaps?

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

 

[Jim Lapenta]

If you know the divers full name as it appears on the card anyone can verify diver status on the PADI site. You do not have to be a PADI pro to get the info. I could even call and say that so and so is considering taking a class from me and I need to verify their previous experience. Some shops do this as a matter of course in the case of a dive forgetting a card, a lost card, etc.

 

[WSOPFAN]

... unless WSOPFAN is a PADI professional, calling to verify the certification status of a diver.

It's easy to defame someone from behind the curtain of internet anonymity ... but the vehemence at a personal level in this case causes me to wonder if there's an ulterior motive ...

Competitor, perhaps?

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

ROFL...........It's always a conspiracy isn't it....................No I am not a competitor and yes I am very surprised they do give out that info. Had I known 85 pages ago I would have checked then. BTW see post 844 and feel free to answer my questions...........

 

[Craig66]

It boggles my mind to see some of the tangents that this thread has gone on and I really think that we can say that we have learnt all that we are going to learn about this accident and that it will be time to move on however if I can beg everyones indulgence for a second as I follow this PADI tangent.

What is the significance of a dive shop bieng a PADI dive shop. Is this merely a fee that one pays to have a well known symbol hangin in your window or does it mean some sort of quality control and oversight by PADI. I guess this is important as although I am a believer of me bieng responsible for my own safety and trust me diving bieng something never to be done I do rely on the presence of the PADI emblem as a sign of quality but if this is not the case how in fact does one go about assessing a dive op to ensure quality, safety and responsible practices. Sure you can assess much of this by asking questions and watching procedures enroute to your first dive site but is there a way that this can be done in a more formal way?

Craig

 

[Ron Lee]

.... I really think that we can say that we have learnt all that we are going to learn about this accident and that it will be time to move on...

People can move on but I believe that there is far more to learn about the specifics of the dive.

 

[MXGratefulDiver]

ROFL...........It's always a conspiracy isn't it....................No I am not a competitor and yes I am very surprised they do give out that info. Had I known 85 pages ago I would have checked then. BTW see post 844 and feel free to answer my questions...........

Your questions aren't relevent to anything of value that could possibly come of this discussion ... therefore there's no point to crawling down that rathole. And however strongly I feel that this dive was a bad idea, I find the tangent you've been pushing distasteful in the extreme ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)

 

[MXGratefulDiver]

It boggles my mind to see some of the tangents that this thread has gone on and I really think that we can say that we have learnt all that we are going to learn about this accident and that it will be time to move on however if I can beg everyones indulgence for a second as I follow this PADI tangent.

What is the significance of a dive shop bieng a PADI dive shop. Is this merely a fee that one pays to have a well known symbol hangin in your window or does it mean some sort of quality control and oversight by PADI. I guess this is important as although I am a believer of me bieng responsible for my own safety and trust me diving bieng something never to be done I do rely on the presence of the PADI emblem as a sign of quality but if this is not the case how in fact does one go about assessing a dive op to ensure quality, safety and responsible practices. Sure you can assess much of this by asking questions and watching procedures enroute to your first dive site but is there a way that this can be done in a more formal way?

Craig

There is no implication of quality involved. Becoming an affiliate gives you the ability to market your services through their website's dive shop locator ... and perhaps a price break on the purchase of student materials ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)