Cozumel dive fatality on April 3?

[diverken374]

That is great to hear Dave!
I believe that I read recently that 32% of diver deaths are cardiac related (don't hold me to that #). I truly fit the profile.
To have an AED on each boat would exceed all expectations and is once again a great credit to your/my dive operation!
The goal is to get the diver to a facility alive ASAP where the best treatment is available including thrombolytics if warranted.

 

[deepsea21]

Dave, I am just curious. Are all of your captains and DM's trained in current CPR? I only ask this because my wife works with people in facilities that have an AED close by but, as has been stated earlier, an AED is no replacement for performing CPR and the use of an AED is often performed in conjunction. I remember the old days when it was 5:1 compression/breaths we were taught in school but that has migrated over the years to the current 15:2. I will also say that I've no idea if my preferred dive op (Tres Pelicanos) has staff trained in the latest CPR as I've never thought to ask until this thread presented itself.

 

[uncfnp]

... One issue is the the medical community here tells me that AEDs are great but direct cardiac injection of medicines are also helpful (dive boat can never do that).

Dave Dillehay
Aldora Divers

I thought intracardiac injections went out decades ago except as a very last resort when no other route is avaliable. Its been awhile but I don't think its even taught in ACLS now.

AEDs are more and more accepted as the most effective lifesaving prehospital intervention for cardiac arrest.

 

[uncfnp]

Dave, I am just curious. Are all of your captains and DM's trained in current CPR? I only ask this because my wife works with people in facilities that have an AED close by but, as has been stated earlier, an AED is no replacement for performing CPR and the use of an AED is often performed in conjunction. I remember the old days when it was 5:1 compression/breaths we were taught in school but that has migrated over the years to the current 15:2. I will also say that I've no idea if my preferred dive op (Tres Pelicanos) has staff trained in the latest CPR as I've never thought to ask until this thread presented itself.

My understanding is that all PADI DMs up are required to have had a First Aid and CPR course. But I believe that to advertise as "CPR certified" they would have to take the recertification course required every two years.

 

[ScubaSteve85]

Would it even work in a wet salt water invironment? How would care giver get clear of the shock in a wet boat?

I Don't know.

AL

Risk of shock to a bystander or caregiver, even on a wet boat, is minimal. The charge is delivered through one electrode and it travels the most direct path, to the adjacent electrode.

 

[DandyDon]

With only a few exceptions, all the dive ops on Cozumel get their tanks filled at the same place and it is a huge fill station that services the island.

And I have found CO tainted air in tanks from there. DAN has since given them CO monitors, but I'm not confident in their use. I test all tanks.

 

[Dave Dillehay]

For the record, ALL of my staff has received up to date training one CPR, O2, and AED use. The AED use was done just yesterday. WE have a AED trainer we bought from PADI at the last show. I expect to have an AED on every boat by July. Anyone want to send a donation we can get it done quicker. They cost $1,450 each. But we will!

Dave Dillehay
Aldora Divers

 

[deepsea21]

And I have found CO tainted air in tanks from there. DAN has since given them CO monitors, but I'm not confident in their use. I test all tanks.

Don... At what levels have you found CO in those tanks? Are you talking about CO levels that could be dangerous or are you talking about slightly higher CO levels we all may encounter in ambient air sitting in our cars in stop and go traffic or tending the gas grill on the 4th of July? How many PPM have you read in these tanks or whatever your gauge may report?

 

[JohnN]

Don... At what levels have you found CO in those tanks? Are you talking about CO levels that could be dangerous or are you talking about slightly higher CO levels we all may encounter in ambient air sitting in our cars in stop and go traffic or tending the gas grill on the 4th of July? How many PPM have you read in these tanks or whatever your gauge may report?

FWIW I had 6 days of delightful diving with Aldora last week (4 dives at 90+ minutes). On all dives I checked the tanks for %O2/CO and for all 12 dives my Cootwo showed 0.0 ppm CO.
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[Hatul]

Dave, I am just curious. Are all of your captains and DM's trained in current CPR? I only ask this because my wife works with people in facilities that have an AED close by but, as has been stated earlier, an AED is no replacement for performing CPR and the use of an AED is often performed in conjunction. I remember the old days when it was 5:1 compression/breaths we were taught in school but that has migrated over the years to the current 15:2. I will also say that I've no idea if my preferred dive op (Tres Pelicanos) has staff trained in the latest CPR as I've never thought to ask until this thread presented itself.

I don't want to nit-pick but the current ratio compression:breaths is 30:2 for adults. (15:2 is two person CPR on child)