Any one remember that crazy squid movie? Two kids come to town wanting to dive this one wreck and run around trying to hire a boat. The Capt asks if they're sure they're ready for that dive and offers them some other sites. They insist on that one and proudly tell him that they are advanced open water! The Capt turns down the job but some drunk with a boat is willing to take them. They, of course, get eaten by the squid. I don't know what that has to do with the thread other than the thread made me remember the movie.
Continuing Education... Your thoughts?
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Darnold9999:
Most agencies have a way around that including PADI. If you have 20 logged dives with experience in deep and nav and "some" certification beyond entry level then you can take a rescue class without taking AOW.
I taught a rescue class to a diver who hadn't taken AOW. Of course he was a cave diver, had technical training and was in the process of getting his CCR trimix cert. He was thinking about becomming an instructor so he did need the rescue cert. After doing incredible dives in unexplored places around the world and making the maps himself could you imagine his reaction had I told him he couldn't take a rescue class without doing a nav dive or a night dive with me in the quarry? A deep dive? Give me a break! I'd have to get him below 300 ft before he'd think we were deep. Maybe a PPB dive would have been useful for him?...NOT. And trust me you'd split a gut if you heard his comments on the PADI video. LOL It was fun. It was the first time I taught a rescue class to some one diving sidemount...it's what he dives if he's not using a rebreather and I couldn't find anything in the standards to prevent it..
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Darnold9999:
For you instructors out there. If someone came to you in this situation, lots of diving experience. Could you tailor the course to make it a learning experience? If you could, would you be willing to do that?
Darnold, if they did, would you be willing to "challange" yourself or do you just need the card to go further?
Darnold9999
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More than happy to be "challanged" - the AOW course I saw would not even come close. Taylored for those just certified that wanted to advance. Good idea, but that course would have added nothing to my skill set, and more importantly was going to interfere with some terrific diving that I just travelled 8,000 miles or so to get to.
A somewhat taylored course is what I will be shopping for once I finish Nitrox and drysuit this weekend. Will give me a chance to try another shop's drysuits and test drive another instructor. (The shop I am doing the drysuit course only has one type of drysuit so I want to try others before buying, and I am thinking that the AOW course might be the way to do it.)
Mike: Can't say I have the level of experience your student had, but am well over 100 dives, I never counted so simply have no idea - 30 plus just in the last couple of years in warm water, only on holidays. However none of them logged. When I certified, logging dives just was not considered particularly important so I never did. Nor did anyone I went diving with - just was not an issue. Normally I can talk my way around this, but once in a while I run into someone that can't be pursuaded that it is the diving that is important - not the log.
I do understand that it is entirely possible that someone will come in to your shop with a line of bull - will always cheerfully do a checkout dive if someone wants to verify my skills, and if needs be will pay for it. I understand that an instructor would not want a diver without the requisite skills on a dive or course.
I am wondering when the concept of "logged dives" became the measuring stick. In 1978 it was only a suggestion not a requirement and nothing in particular depended on having done X logged dives, as I recall anyway.
A somewhat taylored course is what I will be shopping for once I finish Nitrox and drysuit this weekend. Will give me a chance to try another shop's drysuits and test drive another instructor. (The shop I am doing the drysuit course only has one type of drysuit so I want to try others before buying, and I am thinking that the AOW course might be the way to do it.)
Mike: Can't say I have the level of experience your student had, but am well over 100 dives, I never counted so simply have no idea - 30 plus just in the last couple of years in warm water, only on holidays. However none of them logged. When I certified, logging dives just was not considered particularly important so I never did. Nor did anyone I went diving with - just was not an issue. Normally I can talk my way around this, but once in a while I run into someone that can't be pursuaded that it is the diving that is important - not the log.
I do understand that it is entirely possible that someone will come in to your shop with a line of bull - will always cheerfully do a checkout dive if someone wants to verify my skills, and if needs be will pay for it. I understand that an instructor would not want a diver without the requisite skills on a dive or course.
I am wondering when the concept of "logged dives" became the measuring stick. In 1978 it was only a suggestion not a requirement and nothing in particular depended on having done X logged dives, as I recall anyway.
joe rock:
I know instructors that will do personal (one on One) training. They still have to follow the basics of thier organization i.e. PADI NAUI etc. but they will do whatever you are willing to pay for.
I tailor the advanced class for every diver, not just the experienced ones. I doubt that I've ever taught two advanced classes the same way. Part of the fun of teaching involves encountering new things, creating and resolving new challenges, and seeing real learning. It always amazes me when I see instructors who don't actually get jazzed by teaching. What a waste!joe rock:
There's a saying among the oldfart teachers when asked what their best class was: The next one!
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MB:
I respect your attitude - I feel I get that from my instructor. I bet your classes are great, not only learning something new but fun too.
Yeah, that's part of the fun. I get to learn something every time I teach!joe rock:
Do any of your students ever ask you if that is a five tooth sea cucumber you have chosen as an avatar? I think I've seen your face before. 
Some people see a slug - to me, its a way of life!redhatmama:Do any of your students ever ask you if that is a five tooth sea cucumber you have chosen as an avatar? I think I've seen your face before.
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