"Complete Wreck Diving" (manifold vs independent)

[Soggy]

DIR Sidemount

George cracks me up.

 

[Soggy]

The point is that each and every diver have true redundancy of needed gas; redundancy must be PROVEN by emperical evidence; AND "your buddy" does NOT offer redundancy.

P.E.R.I.O.D

I do have true redundancy of needed gas that is proven by empirical evidence. I have manifolded doubles. I know of no situation where the manifold has gone catastrophically in the water.

And, I have a buddy on top of that. Depending on the dive, sometimes I bring a stage, too.

 

[Hoosier]

I guess we just have differing philosophies. I clearly see several small and several major problems with an independent configuration where you see advantages. Different strokes for different folks.

Exactly, I am trying to understand your way of thinking. Sure, an independent rig might have more failture points depending on your perspectives. There is no troll and bashing about your way of thinking. The reason you might be worried is you are well known for DIR guy all over the places, TDS and SB. There are other famous folks who used to represent their way of thinking.

If you can't dive with a sidemount, it is ok and we respect your decision.

But, if you can dive with a sidemount diver and can't dive with an indepedant diver, I can't follow your way of thinking. That's my only point. So, I just would like to hear how your way of thinking considers a sidemount diving. We are all listening.


Edit) you guys are so quick to type... Already mentioned a DIR sidemount... LOL~~

 

[daniel f aleman]

I love reading George.

 

[daniel f aleman]

Soggy, what do you do if lose your manifold (however ridiculus a chance)?

 

[Soggy]

Soggy, what do you do lose your manifold (however ridiculus a chance)?

I get gas from my buddy after it takes several minutes for my backgas tanks to empty through a failed manifold.

 

[Thalassamania]

The point is that each and every diver have true redundancy of needed gas; redundancy must be PROVEN by emperical evidence; AND, "your buddy" does NOT offer redundancy.

P.E.R.I.O.D

Perhaps your buddy does not, mine does. Granted that's redundant to my already carried redundancy, but that's redundant ... isn't it?

George cracks me up.

George cracks up.

 

[Soggy]

Perhaps your buddy does not, mine does. Granted that's redundant to my already carried redundancy, but that's redundant ... isn't it?

Welcome to the Department of Redundancy Department.

 

[Hoosier]

It is good to hear that there is a DIR sidemount. That article explains enough to solve all recent debate.


Who said that,,,,? George says so....

 

[daniel f aleman]

As long as we're quoting George, Turner was Gavin's buddy on this dive:

Imagine what was going through the mind of an 18 year veteran cave diver diving in a place he knew like his own house. He came back to the restriction. For 45 minutes they tried to find a way out, tying in their spools to where the line was buried and searching forward. Gavin told me they were down to almost no gas, and he knew they were going to die. He said he did not want to see Parker die so he moved over to die by himself.

http://www.direxplorers.com/trip-reports/1347-my-77th-cave-dive.html