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Has anyone run into this issue? XTAR D26 2500, works for about half an hour, then brightness drops, the switch starts flashing red, and a few minutes later, it dies. The batteries are original XTAR-branded 26650s that shipped with the light, and testing them in a smart charger shows approximately 4950mAh capacity. In fact, removing them from the light and popping them in the charger after it has died shows that they've barely been discharged at all.
 
Has anyone run into this issue? XTAR D26 2500, works for about half an hour, then brightness drops, the switch starts flashing red, and a few minutes later, it dies. The batteries are original XTAR-branded 26650s that shipped with the light, and testing them in a smart charger shows approximately 4950mAh capacity. In fact, removing them from the light and popping them in the charger after it has died shows that they've barely been discharged at all.
any updates on this? I've got 5 of the lights, and have experienced this occasionally. I'm not sure if it's a combination of what head, with what cell, and what tail cap I happen to be using together. They get mixed up from time to time... I've found very slightly unscrewing the tail cap, breaking the battery connection, can sometimes fix the issue... but do so at your own risk underwater. I'm going to try some different cells if I can find something good.
 
I wrote to XTAR, they offered to sell me a replacement at 50% off. This coincided with a sale on Aliexpress (where I originally bought my light), so I ended up paying $37.
 
there doesnt seem to be a consistent correlation between price and reliability - ive had cheap chinese lights survive below 100m and more expensive ones fail at 20m
 
Does anyone have a good source (europe) for the Piezo switches which work with the lamp?
Should be NO Prolonged pulse. Or is there a workaround to use NO switch with short pulse?

Edit: Has anyone tried to replace the button with a reed switch embedded in epoxy?

Very hard to find on aliexpress, most only specify NO and "reset" but not if it's the prolonged pulse version which i assume is required to turn off the lamp without additional changes to the circuit.

Some measurements might help someone else
Button is M18x1mm thread.
17,8 to 17,9 mm outer diameter of the button
17,2 mm innerdiameter in the lamp.
The Button PCB is 14mm in diameter.
Depth to the first ledge in the housing (sealing surface) is 7 mm
Second level (below the PCB) is 10 mm

I have also made a tool to open the front and rear end of the lamp. An attempt for the button as well but the first version wasn't good enough so tweezer/thin pliers are recommended. See printables or thingiverse for details.
 

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Does anyone have a good source (europe) for the Piezo switches which work with the lamp?
Should be NO Prolonged pulse. Or is there a workaround to use NO switch with short pulse?

Edit: Has anyone tried to replace the button with a reed switch embedded in epoxy?

Very hard to find on aliexpress, most only specify NO and "reset" but not if it's the prolonged pulse version which i assume is required to turn off the lamp without additional changes to the circuit.

I think you mean latching.
I have found a few that latch on AliExpress, but its quite a while ago.
I think they are 3 wire...
You also can get a latch module, which a pulse switch can signal
 
I think you mean latching.
I have found a few that latch on AliExpress, but its quite a while ago.
I think they are 3 wire...
You also can get a latch module, which a pulse switch can signal
No Latching is different. That's a 3 wire connection and means that the button will stay pressed until pushed again.

What i want is one of the piezo sensors which is short circuit while the button is pushed (up to 30 s). This means that i can make both a long and short pulse depending on how long i press the button. Just like with the original mechanical button on the lamp (perfect replacement).
These are available with 2-wire connection just like the piezo buttons that have a fixed dutycycle (usually between 50 to 300 ms).

If the pulstime is maximum 300 ms i won't be able to turn the lamp off using the button. Since it requires long press (3 seconds?)

See attached image from apem.com and PBA series datasheet, they have a NO prolonged version as well. Purchasing these is not as easy. Some prices went into 100 euro/button in some stores.
The aibeiken image is from one of the sensors that sells on aliexpress but they only have the NO and Latching version and not the K version which i want (NO prolonged).

I'm looking into reed relays, that should be a simpler and cheaper solution to cover on of those in epoxy and just make a sliding magnet.
 

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I have two of these light coming this week. I'll look into changing the switches to magnetic/hall switch models.
I have also access to a lumen meter (integrating sphere) and a light spectrum meter. I'll measure the true lumens and colour temperature.
 
I received two lights from AliExpress. The order model was AS27-1H but the instruction manual says Sealion-B15. It was sold as a 20000lm light. 12000lm disappeared as soon as I opened the instruction manual. The manual states 8000lm. The brand is LetonPower. Other brand option was BRETT but I went with LetonPower because photos of it showed a brass ring on the PCB for positive battery contact. I don't like plain ENIG plated PCB for contact.
IMG20240918223503.jpg
The first thing I did was adding a plastic stick to the head to prevent the PCB from rotating. I just glued it into place with hot glue and cut to proper length.
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I have access to a dark room lab at work.
There I measured the spectrum of the light and colour temperature. From the spectrum I could calculate the CRI. The leds are cheap chinese leds with colour temperature of 7200K and CRI of 67.
Spectrum_average10~2.PNG
I also measured the leakage current in off state. It was only 17uA which is very good.

I ordered a third light which I will use for measuring the led driver circuit and for prototyping a magnet+hall switch upgrade for the buttons.

I will also measure the lux and lumen output of the lights. I have access to an integrating sphere lumen meter but I don't know the correction factor to the reading (lux meter reading to lumens). I'll probably measure the lux reading across the light pattern and calculate lumens of it.
 
Quick lux radings in dark room 1m distance from lux meter:
High 2100 lux
Mid 480 lux
Low 180 lux
 
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