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Nice set-up. I'll play:
Snake Oil Salesmen Were on to Something

I try to keep an open mind, Chinese (and other) folk medicines can be surprising at times: [Clinical and experimental studies on royal made ping an dan in preventing motion sickness]. - PubMed - NCBI I would love to try that.

As for titanium, copper, and magnets, people believe what they want to believe. No skin off my nose...
True...for all I know black tape may work just as well, but I haven't tried that yet :) placebos are known to work just as well as some scripts....it is in the mind...isn't everything in the mind?
 
Sorry. That’s just plain rubbish. On a par with snake oil. Zero science to support titanium...

From what I can tell it's an "Ace" bandage with the brand name Titanium. Since I didn't see any claims about some magic metal, does that make a difference?


Bob
 
From what I can tell it's an "Ace" bandage with the brand name Titanium. Since I didn't see any claims about some magic metal, does that make a difference?


Bob

None. It's all in your mind. But is it the same price as Ace? Aha.
 
Sorry. That’s just plain rubbish. On a par with snake oil. Zero science to support titanium, copper, magnets or any other mass marketed quackery. If it “helps” you more power to you but it’s all in your head.
You overestimate the role of evidence in modern medicine. The problem is, solid evidence (that is, double-blind clinical trials) is very, very expensive and risky. This is why though modern Western medicine is called "evidence-based", there is never enough evidence to satisfy the demand for good, efficient and inexpensive medications. So here are the consequences:

First, plenty of approved medications are used off-label. Meaning, not for their intended FDA-approved use, but for something else. In fact, I've seen claims that more than 50% of prescribed medications in USA are used off-label. My wife takes two such off-label medications, for example. One is basically life-saving for her and yet I haven't seen even a single publication that would support such use of this drug; and still it works. Doctors spread such information simply by word of mouth.

Second, there are medications and treatments that will never go through proper clinical trials because they are non-patentable. These are various traditional medications, such as Chinese plaster, or Star Balm (a.k.a. Tiger Balm); or probiotics; or things like zinc lollipops against common cold. These are left in a grey zone of "legal but positive effects unknown". There will never be any proper evidence of their effectiveness gathered, but not because getting such evidence is impossible (it seems this is what you imply), but because nobody will ever bother to spend zillions on trials, risking failure, and in the end get something that any competitor can make in a Guatemala sweatshop and legally sell for pennies.
 
Well put except in the case of Titanium tape, it’s ALL marketing. There is nothing in the tape that confers a special benefit requiring testing. Even homeopathic remedies may have a residual molecule (or not).
 
None. It's all in your mind. But is it the same price as Ace? Aha.

I wouldn't buy an Ace if there was a generic house brand cheaper.

I haven't had much success with placebos, I guess they would work if the pain was in my mind.


Bob
 
Well put except in the case of Titanium tape, it’s ALL marketing. There is nothing in the tape that confers a special benefit requiring testing. Even homeopathic remedies may have a residual molecule (or not).
Nope, if there's even a molecule of actual medicine in it then it ceases to be homeopathic! Homeopathic "medicine" is purely scam. At least titanium tape is still tape that can provide a benefit in the form of compression of whatever you put it on (just like regular tape). Just look at all the babies that have died from ingesting deadly nightshade. The makers claim that there was a manufacturing mistake that resulted in the nightshade still being present. The only reason homeopathics are still around is that folks don't know what they really are, and they're often sold right next to actual medicine in cvs stores.
 
Well put except in the case of Titanium tape, it’s ALL marketing. There is nothing in the tape that confers a special benefit requiring testing. Even homeopathic remedies may have a residual molecule (or not).
I agree on this one.
 
Well this turned into a Spirited Spitball Skirmish, no need either because medicines work differently on different people, and situations. Ointments can’t permeate my padded patootie, but binding the knee does squish the swelling down some. That doesn’t mean we can bind all joints/ pains that way since showing up for work looking like Elvira’s Gimp love interest will get you fired.
Here’s the theory on metals, by the way, our nerves work with electrical impulses, copper, or magnets could disrupt the electric signals, maybe it works for some people, but not me.
Also, Bee stings work for arthritis, by giving the autoimmune cells something else do, other than nibble at my cartilage, but, well, I’d rather not sit on a beehive.
But the best surprise is hyperbaric chambers can cure all kinds of injuries, wounds, burns, nerve damage etc., so keep an open mind!
 
But the best surprise is hyperbaric chambers can cure all kinds of injuries, wounds, burns, nerve damage etc., so keep an open mind!

Curious. Why is this such a surprise? O2 under high pressure. I'd be surprised if nothing happened.

OTOH people may some outrageous claims about this too. There is a dive store in the mid-west that places divers on a seat at the bottom of a 30 ft pool with an (non-medical) O2 tank and claims that it cures everything from Ulcers to MS. I swear this is true. If they used medical grade O2, they would have the FDA all over them. You gotta love the USA.
 
https://www.shearwater.com/products/perdix-ai/

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