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Buying Tech Gear

Discussion in 'British Isles' started by gzepplin, May 13, 2013.

  1. Ste Wart

    Ste Wart Master Instructor

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    Well preferences and Philosophy are two different things. I love APEKS ( and they should sponsor me :D) so that's my preference. Maybe the OP just meant open minded to kit suggestions?

    As for Philosophy. You see at lot of different stuff in Egypt. Some guys in Transpacs, Bungeed wings and long hoses as well as others in Hog Rigs. Again Open minded? Maybe the he was even taught right rich left lean. Who knows?
     
  2. DevonDiver

    DevonDiver N/A

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    Sure... I'm not opposed to varied philosophies being presented, but normally by graduation from a level 2 (tec45/deco proc) course, the user has had sufficient exposure and education to have formed their own opinion..at least an outline??
     
  3. Ste Wart

    Ste Wart Master Instructor

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    Again Andy, who knows?

    I drifted further from what I learned in (Transpac, Bungeed wing and hose!) towards a classic Hog Rig and that's since I completed Full Trimix.
     
  4. gzepplin

    gzepplin Angel Fish

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    Hi HIGHwing,
    When you do less than a weeks of recreational diving per year, having only a Dive Computer is very common. I new I was only going to buy equipment when it made since, even if that was 110 dives later. Now that I did Deco I pretty much have no other choice.

    ---------- Post added May 15th, 2013 at 05:05 PM ----------

    Good question. The two makes that were mentioned were Dive System and OMS. As far as configuration, I asked about side mount, but it was summary rejected as none-sense for open water divers... Although I quite like the idea. Never seen it in real, or any one using it.

    As someone mentioned, in Egypt one sees a lot of different equipment and I only know two people that do it; the instructor and another course participant. So, I don't know enough to make a good judgement.

    ---------- Post added May 15th, 2013 at 05:09 PM ----------

    I was! Is that wrong???

    ---------- Post added May 15th, 2013 at 05:33 PM ----------

    DevonDiver,
    The answer is in two points: It is not the gear that drives me, it is the pleasure of being underwater; although I accept that is very naive perspective Which leads me to the second point. Once I have never own equipment, and thus did not do any research, I actually don't know much about it. I have rented quite a few different sets, but they were all single tank, except when I did the course dives.

    What I really miss is belonging to a group of people that have the equipment and talk about it. That is how I normally learn about things in live...
     
  5. DevonDiver

    DevonDiver N/A

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    Kinda the 'Ford' and 'Toyota' of tech diving. Nothing terrible, but nothing stunning either. Good all-rounders, if you need to buy from a catalog. and aren't particularly fussed about the finer points of your rig...

    I think that displays a very closed-minded approach. It was probably "rejected" because the "experts" didn't know how to use it. That's frequently the case when precious egos are threatened. But, heck, everyone's entitled to an opinion.. :wink:

    The guys at Team Blue Immersion, Dahab, are doing a lot of it...and a lot of other very good stuff. If you get chance, do go and see them.
     
  6. aaen

    aaen Solo Diver

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    Go buy the agir line of tech gear. Tords gear is literally bullet proof, well not quite but it is tough and very very well made.

    I've had zero issues with the gear from a lot of abuse, well i did just recently pinch flat my wing but that was a dumb mistake which I am not sure how it happened but it did, and I have literally dove the crap out of that wing. Sill looks brand new, and after I patch it I will dive it for another 4 years.




    Steve

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  7. Ste Wart

    Ste Wart Master Instructor

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    Just different. Some on the board will claim it'll kill you. Or that it's hard to donate the long hose (these guys all seem to dive with buddies who run out of air a lot :wink: )I did all my tech courses in that configuration.
     
  8. gzepplin

    gzepplin Angel Fish

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    Interesting reply, because I thought lesson number one is you take as much air as you need - sharing only in emmergencies... that is what the SAC rate is for...
     
  9. Ste Wart

    Ste Wart Master Instructor

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    Hang on. What were you taught?
     
  10. DevonDiver

    DevonDiver N/A

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    I just found it odd because most of my experiences as, and with, technical instructors is that they usually go into significant detail about the finer points of equipment configuration.

    Some instructors have a very rigid personal philosophy and insist that students meet that (during training, at least). Others are more flexible, but will still make time on the course to discuss the pros and cons of different approaches. They help the student develop a personal approach, whilst reinforcing key principles that may guide that approach.

    What I've never encountered is a technical instructor that throws a rig at the student... "here, wear this" and doesn't quantify why or how that configuration has been selected.
     

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