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pilot fish:
What law enforcement?

Rangers will have police powers soon. Also they have in the past worked with police and have indeed caught numeorus violators such as those spearfishing, illegal anchoring etc. This is in regards to laws of the Marine Park of course and not general laws of the island.

Bruce Bowker
 
brucebowker:
Rangers will have police powers soon. Also they have in the past worked with police and have indeed caught numeorus violators such as those spearfishing, illegal anchoring etc. This is in regards to laws of the Marine Park of course and not general laws of the island.

Bruce Bowker

Oh, I thought they had finally started to do something about the crime of theft and burglary that has been plaguing the island. How can you enjoy the UW if you are being robbed above water?
 
pilot fish:
Oh, I thought they had finally started to do something about the crime of theft and burglary that has been plaguing the island. How can you enjoy the UW if you are being robbed above water?


Just curious, how many times have you been to Bonaire?
 
herman:
Just curious, how many times have you been to Bonaire?


Once. I stayed at the Divi F and witnessed no crime at all. I was totally unaware of it at the time. It was not till I left that I began to hear all these horror stories of crime, rip offs, buglary, car theft, stuff stolen out of cars, break-ins, etc from other divers. I heard it from too many divers not to believe there is a problem with crime there and that it is hushed by Bonaire Tourist board so as to not scare away divers.
 
Pilot Fish,

people like to get negative. Just like the urban legends that seem to self propogate, when you bring up the subject of theft, it seems that everyone has a "bigger and better" story.

But hey, I had my window smashed and my projector stolen last year. That's first hand, but you don't see me making sweeping statements about ALL of the church parking lots be havens for thiefs.

If I were you I would believe YOUR experience there rather than second hand crapola from other divers who heard about yet other divers. YOUR experience of no problems is the norm there and not the exception. You didn't just get "lucky" with your experience.
 
pilot fish:
Oh, I thought they had finally started to do something about the crime of theft and burglary that has been plaguing the island. How can you enjoy the UW if you are being robbed above water?


An entirely different area of enforcement. I am talking about Rangers only and the Marine Park.
 
Thanks Pete, that' s were I was going.
I am up to 8 trips since 99, 3 in 04 alone and have had no problems at all nor have I actually seen someone having a problem first hand. I have stayed at 4 different resorts and have had as many as 10 people with me (24 on my first trip in 99-a trip I was not leading). Thats a lot of island hours with no problems. No doubt it does happen on occasion and one time is too many but from the rumors I hear, not first hand I admitt, the problems happen mostly to people who leave items on the seat of their vehicle. Wonder what the life of an unattended camera on the seat of a car in NYC is ?
 
HI Bruce and welcome to ScubaBoard.

Thank you for answering the questions asked, as I could not have answered them without help.
:)
 
AggieDiver:
I always love these threads, because there is always somebody who says "this kind of thing happens everywhere", in a somewhat lame attempt to excuse the Bonaire Police for the abject failure to even marginally attempt to stop the well known theft problems there. This kind of thing DOES NOT happen everywhere. You might go to Coz and 1 person in 10,000 might get something stolen out of their hotel. Or one car in 20,000 might get broken into or vandalized in the Cayman Islands. On Bonaire, it is probably alot closer to 1 in 10 or 1 in 20. For every ten people here saying they had no problem, I can show you 10 posts from people who just got back and had something stolen. The fact is that there are almost never threads on any of the major scuba boards detailing thefts as a pattern for any location other than Bonaire. The police there don't care, and as evidenced by the use of the laptop for a week, they are most likely a major part of the problem. Anywhere else, everybody realizes that crime is a major deterrent to tourism, but on Bonaire, it is accepted as status quo and nobody cares. So please...feel free to post your own personal experiences, pro or con about Bonaire, but don't patronize us by claiming it is rare or common anywhere in the caribbean, because it isn't. Jamaica and some places in the major port cities of the Bahamas may have similar problems, but even there, the crooks haven't developed such a clear pattern of targeting divers, and the population is much larger, making identification of the criminals harder. The locals and the police on Bonaire know damn well who the thieves are, and they know who and where they sell their booty. They just don't care to make any effort to fix it.


Hey... I've been to Bonaire 15 times beginnig in 1975. The island has become less and less safe. I am fearful now to take scooters and just cruise the island alone with my wife since friends of mine were robbed by thugs over by the Dancing Waves on the windward side of the island. We used to drive up to Karpata and then drive back the long way thru a town just to the east of Karpata. (I can't remember the name any more.) We used to stop there for soda and ice cream. Last time we drove to the town we were attacked by a gang of rock throwing teens, but escaped without any serious damage -- just a few scratches to the car. On another occasion, at a festival one night I had this guy hang around me most of the evening, trying to "become my friend." Later he wanted me to give him a lift home. I told him "no." He was very offended, and said "Don't you trust me?!" I told him it "simply wasn't happening." Later, the hotel concierge (sp?) told me, "Oh, that guy is very dangerous. He does that, and then robs people. We think he's killed people." Well, 15 times to Bonaire is enough. I been everywhere there from the Windjammer to the windward side of the island for shark watching. I'm not going back, just to be robbed, or have stones thrown at me, or to have my equipment (which I've worked hard to accumulate) ripped off. It's time for the dive operators to scream bloody murder to the politicians on the island. That won't happen until there is a grass roots boycott of the island. Think about it. Doc
 
brucebowker:
An entirely different area of enforcement. I am talking about Rangers only and the Marine Park.
Who by the way seem to be doing their job, they stopped our Toucan boat once to check that everyone had BMP tags.
 
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