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H2Andy:
darn, if only they got with the program and left when they weren't needed any more

;)

Man! Andy! your back at it again....:rofl3:
 
SteveDiver:
Man! Andy! your back at it again....:rofl3:


all you have to do is select the nearest brick wall and point it out for me

:D
 
H2Andy:
darn, if only they got with the program and left when they weren't needed any more

;)

Hi Andy,

What would you propose to solve the "immigration" issue? How do we allow "good" people in, yet keep people who are real threats to the US out?
 
Randy43068:
What would you propose to solve the "immigration" issue? How do we allow "good" people in, yet keep people who are real threats to the US out?


i don't really see an immigration issue

there's no way to stop people from coming across the US southern or northern border, or if they really wanted to, along the thousands of miles of coastline on the Pacific or Atlantic coasts

face it. if Al-Qaeda wants to infiltrate people into the US, they can do it. any time they want.

where you get them is at the organizational and staging level, once they already are in the US. at that stage, their intentions are usually fairly clear to any competent investigator, who will be able to tell if

(a) the guy is a migrant with a large family in Mexico; or

(b) the guy is an Islamic extremist organizing a bombing

most people haven't noticed, but the US has been quite good at busting several terrorist rings so far, with not a single bombing since 9-11, and it has Al-Qaeda on the run all over the world

and that is why, folks, my money will always be on the US and our ability to overcome just about any problem that comes our way
 
H2Andy:
he says he can't get Americans to do the work for what he's wiling to pay. also, he says the Americans who do work are usually pretty bad workers.

he HATES Mexicans (he does; i'm working on him) but he says that you can't compete with Mexican workers. he hires them all the time.

(by Mexican he means anybody from Central America who speaks Spanish. they're all Mexicans to him)

Cheap labor means substandard work believe me. Houses are not built like they used to be because you have "unskilled" illegals doing the work. If it is so bad over here and they are under-paid then they need to go home. What we need to do is send them ALL back accross the border and abolish welfare and make the welfare participants take the jobs that the illegals had...
 
SteveDiver:
Cheap labor means substandard work believe me.

not according to the pros, and i've talked to several

Mexicans do great work for less
 
H2Andy:
not according to the pros, and i've talked to several

Mexicans do great work for less
:rofl3: :rofl3: Man! you are an expert on everything.... I beg to defer. I have seen their work and you get what you pay for. Builders use them because they are "cheap" so the builder can pocket more money. I am a president of a home owners association and have had several working for contractors that I hired. It cost me more $$$ to fix their errors and to find a contractor that had a "skilled" workforce. Maybe you will go into work and be replaced by an unskilled, cheaper wage employee. Be careful what you wish for.
 
I'm sorry but they don't do great work for less... They do work that no one else will do for less... My mom recently had a house built and it took the immigrants about 6 weeks to paint it...and it's not a big house, needless to say, they were fired, and the job they did was horrible, they even painted over vinyl, so that had to be replaced...and they hired American painters to do the job, and it took them a long time to correct all the mistakes and repaint everything (they had to sand most of it back down) I can't express to you what a horrible job it was. But, I know of course, that is just one situation...But I mean come on, the work they do, it doesn't have to be great...Pick strawberries...wow a lot of skill needed there, crop tobacco, wow...most of their work is like I said before, not very skilled, it's just they are willing to do it...
 
JackSpearo:
But, I know of course, that is just one situation...But I mean come on, the work they do, it doesn't have to be great...Pick strawberries...wow a lot of skill needed there, crop tobacco, wow...most of their work is like I said before, not very skilled, it's just they are willing to do it...

Believe me the sub-standard work happens more often than not..... I work for University of Texas Medical Branch and some of the temporary-documented workers that are hired to paint, clean, maintenance etc. are VERY sloppy...they are paid less and you get what you pay for....
 
Setting aside the quality of work, we no longer control our borders. A nation that does not control its borders has lost its sovereignty.

If we need & want temp workers from other countries, that's one issue & can & should be addressed & dealt with. Control of the border is a separate issue & it should be addressed & dealt with. We'll never seal it completely, but we can reduce the flood to a tolerable leak.
 

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