Bigger lungs, greater air consumption

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suddha

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I have twenty dives under my belt now and am focusing on improving my air consumption. I am a fit 37 yr old male but can't seem to get more than 35 minutes on a max 60 fsw (warm, slight current) dive with an AL80 tank, while others are getting 45 minutes.

I have worked with divemasters on trimming my kit, adjusting weight and trying different fins. One suggestion I heard was that I am a big, athletic guy (6'2", 225lbs) and presumably have a big lung capacity, so am simply breathing more air from my tank per breath than others. This makes sense that if I take a deep breath I could be taking it a lot more air than, say, my wife (5'5", 120lbs). But then I see other big dudes getting more bottom time than me.

What gives? Am I destined to be an air hog? Should I be using a bigger steel tank to account for higher air volume needs?

Thanks for any feedback.
 
20 dives isn't much to develop good relaxed breathing. The best suggestion I would give you is just keep diving. I'm 6'3" 240 and can get an hour and 20 on a steel 72 in a local shallow quarry without any problems. Just keep diving, enjoy it and relax and it'll improve on it's own.

Jim
 
I have twenty dives under my belt now and am focusing on improving my air consumption. I am a fit 37 yr old male but can't seem to get more than 35 minutes on a max 60 fsw (warm, slight current) dive with an AL80 tank, while others are getting 45 minutes.

I have worked with divemasters on trimming my kit, adjusting weight and trying different fins. One suggestion I heard was that I am a big, athletic guy (6'2", 225lbs) and presumably have a big lung capacity, so am simply breathing more air from my tank per breath than others. This makes sense that if I take a deep breath I could be taking it a lot more air than, say, my wife (5'5", 120lbs). But then I see other big dudes getting more bottom time than me.

What gives? Am I destined to be an air hog? Should I be using a bigger steel tank to account for higher air volume needs?

Thanks for any feedback.
A lot of divers have been where you're at right now. The good news is ... it gets better.

When I started out, I'd suck an AL80 dry in 20 minutes ... and that on a shallow dive. Now I can get 75 to 80 minutes out of the same tank at the same dive sites. You get better with practice.

Here's an excerpt from a handout I use for a seminar I give ... maybe something in there will be helpful ...

Some tips for using your air more efficiently
Air consumption is often related to other aspects of your diving, such as buoyancy control, weighting, trim, your breathing pattern, and swimming speed. Once you’ve determined your air consumption rate, you should track it over a period of time and see if you notice how it changes over time. As overall skills improve, so will your air consumption … often dramatically.

Here are some tips that can help you improve your air consumption, and in general get more enjoyment out of your diving experience.

Breathing
Scuba diving presents most of us with the first time in our lives that we have ever actually had to think about breathing. For the most part, it’s something we just do and never give a whole lot of thought to. But underwater it affects us dramatically. And there is a technique to proper breathing on scuba gear. In general, you want to take long, slow, deep breaths. A complete inhale and exhale should take anywhere from 5 to 8 seconds … sometimes longer for more practiced divers. Rapid breathing affects our buoyancy … shallow breathing tends to build up carbon-dioxide in our body, which causes us to feel oxygen starved and breathe harder and faster. Practice long, slow, deep breathing on land … and then try it in the water. You will often notice an immediate improvement in your buoyancy control, and over time will notice that as your buoyancy control improves, so does your gas consumption.

Weighting
Improper weighting will affect your gas consumption considerably. Divers who are overweighted will go through their gas faster because they have to carry excessive gas in their BCD or wing to maintain neutral buoyancy, and even small changes in depth will cause excessive changes in their buoyancy because of the expansion or compression of that extra gas. You should perform weight checks any time you get a new piece of gear, and occasionally as your diving skills improve, because simply learning how to relax more underwater will often allow you to lose weights you thought you needed. Conversely, underweighted divers will struggle to stay down … working harder than they need to, which will also cause you to breathe harder than you should and consume your gas supply at a faster than needed rate.

Trim
Humans are psychologically oriented in a vertical position … it’s what we’ve done since we learned how to walk, and when learning scuba we must teach ourselves to move about in a horizontal position. Proper trim is very important to good gas consumption. Water is 800 times heavier than air, and we cannot efficiently move through water in the same way we move through air. Maintaining a horizontal position means that as we move through the water, we have to move less water out of our way than we would in a vertical position. It also radically increases the efficiency of our fins to move us in the direction we want to go. Both of those are huge factors in terms of our air consumption, because it reduces the amount of work we need to do to move about.

Swimming speed
Many divers, new divers in particular, tend to swim rather quickly. While that will get you from point to point faster, it will also increase your air consumption dramatically. In fact, the faster you go the more air you will consume getting from one place to another. Slow down … it’s not a race! There are lots of tiny creatures (and even some large ones that are good at camouflage) that you will miss if you speed by. Going slow, and keeping your fin kicks relatively small, will improve your air consumption dramatically.

I think at this point the best advice I can give you is to focus on these tips, and just worry about bottom time ... as you learn better form and relax a little your air consumption will take care of itself ...

... Bob (Grateful Diver)
 
At 6'5" 230# I had the worst air consumption of any one I knew. About .8 sac. I bought larger tanks and thought it would never improve. Now I have about the best consumption of anyone I know. Regularly around .34 wet and warm and .42 dry and cold. Just keep diving and don't think about it. It will lower. Continue working on trim and buoyancy.
 
I've felt your pain. At 6'5" and 255-285 during my diving career, when I started I was right where you are now. With some experience my current SAC rate is just slightly higher than my 5'6" 160 primary buddy. Close enough that we don't need to worry about the difference.

20 dives is still really early days. Just work at being relaxed while in the water. Don't worry about trying to lower your consumption. With relaxation and comfort in the water, your SAC will naturally come down.
 
Thanks for the responses. I will definitely keep working on the items suggested and gain more experience.

But.... for the sake of the argument.... doesn't it make sense that bigger lungs equals bigger volume of air per breath and hence faster consumption? Don't worry, I won't cling to this as an excuse for being an air hog. ;)

My wife, with a whopping 7 dives, gets more bottom time than me and her swimming and buoyancy are still not that great.

Cheers.
 
Thanks for the responses. I will definitely keep working on the items suggested and gain more experience.

But.... for the sake of the argument.... doesn't it make sense that bigger lungs equals bigger volume of air per breath and hence faster consumption? Don't worry, I won't cling to this as an excuse for being an air hog. ;)

My wife, with a whopping 7 dives, gets more bottom time than me and her swimming and buoyancy are still not that great.

Cheers.

I used that excuse for a long time. It doesn't necessarily hold true in the long run. It can be used to your advantage and give you superior buoyancy control. When properly weighted I almost never have to use the inflater on my wing.
 
Ditto what others said. I started out by draining an AL80 in about 30 minutes. Even tried a 100 a couple of times. On my last dive (#89) I had 1400# left after a 40 minute dive at 45 feet. I figured out the buoyancy and trim pretty early in the game but the breathing came later. After about 30 or 40 dives I started exhaling a bit longer and slower. I'd do a two count in inhale and a three or four-count on exhale. I've got it down to a 6 and sometimes 8-count on exhale now. Also, I exhale through my nose a some since my mask leaks a little. This seems to slow things down a little. At first I was a little anxious about exhaling slowly. It's surprising how slowly you can exhale if you keep your mind on it. After a while it comes naturally.
 
The more of you there is the more of you needs to be oxygenated and the more air will need to be in contact with lung tissue to accomplish that and as a result you will consume more air. There is nothing you can do about it directly other than loose mass, increase fitness. Indirectly, I know you are not breathing correctly, your not balanced out and I doubt your rig is optimized and a few other variables like being relaxed (whatever that means--I am never relaxed---and the needle on my spg moves like watching water boil).

The correct breathing method is not what is taught today, you should take long and slow deep breaths which allows each lungfull more time to transfer the 02 to the blood stream--this type breathing is more efficient than the panting most people naturally do. Taken to an extreme some might call this skip breathing--don't go to that extreme. Aerobic exercise and anerobic exercise (wind sprints etc)--not power lifting will help your body to become tolerent of being in the 02 deficit.

Big people are at a disadvantage, they have more body mass, they have more frontal area in the water, more mass to accelerate, they burn more calories, use more air. Sorry. The good news is that you have a huge room for improvement but the bad news is, everything else EQUAL, the 5-11, 175 pounder is going to use less air than you at 6-2 and 225 pounds.

N
 
Nice thorough post, Bob, as usual.

Of course we all know size matters! But it isn't the only factor (right?). Lung efficiency, depth of breathing and breathing rate are additional ones. I have big lungs but generally a low SAC rate (I'd better after all the decades of practice) because my lungs are clear and efficient (no nasty residues), and my breathing pattern is slow and of moderate depth (rather than gasping).

Give it time and read the advice of others here. If you keep up the practice you'll undoubtedly see marked improvement.
 

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