Be careful in Bonaire (Burglaries)

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Sorry you think I have a "anti-Bonaire attitude"; I do question why the locals let it keep happening but have come to some better understandings, that do include that with the Bonaire fans defending the island in spite of B&E while sleeping, the locals seem to see the tourist well as never running dry - and you support that theory. Instead, I think it might go better to pass the word to all to insure well, keep records, file claims, etc as well as reduce exposure.



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DD..I believe the answer to your question is that some folks who continuously bash Bonaire have very little real knowledge nor experience on the island. They repeat a theme over & over ad nauseum and in the end believe their own untruths.

I've been to Coz (and many other places in the Carib) and really have no plans of returning. We picked Bonaire to finally invest on because of the unique qualities of friendly people, easy diving, spectacular weather, no hurricanes, and a quality of living for the general population. Try it, spend time there and I do think you'll figure out why so many of us continue to return. It's not a coincidence that Bonaire is shaped like a boom-a-rang.;)
 
Oops Bubbletrubble found it first...

Why is anyone continuing to comment on something that happened over 5 years ago?

Actually it's 6 years ago. The reason there is coment on it now is becasue the same crimes are taking place now, 6 years later, and nothing is being done about it.:shakehead: Divers are accepting that level of crime on BONAIRE and that has those sane members puzzled.:confused:
 
Nice try:eyebrow: Actually, bad try. You can protest all you like but it's true and he is who he says he was and he is not, as you incorrectly say, a TRUTH STRETCHER:rofl3:

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm, I wonder if Indian Valley Scuba, a dive shop owner, runs trips to Bonaire? Wonder if he makes a profit on that? Do ya think?


He is in fact with the hospital and the folks at the Sheriff's Dept know who he is, so perhaps he is a bit of a truth stretcher? Maybe knows a Captain in the Sheriff's Dept? Maybe when he was a kid wanted to be one when he grew up? Bottom line, I read the letter that was posted, took it directly to the Bibb Couny Sheriff's Dept in Macon GA, and got the official answer, right from the proper end of the horse. So, do I need to use a special editor when I read "I am a Captain with the Bibb County Sheriff's Office" to really mean I work at a nearby hospital? Cut me a break!

My only real question is why would someone outright lie when making a post?
 
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You're confusing them with facts.;)




@Indian Valley Scuba: Did you inquire about a "Mr. Otis Neil Godbee"? Perhaps "Neil Godbee" is his son or a relative of some sort. There is an online document (revealed by a Google search for "Otis Neil Godbee") dated May 10, 2005, stating that: "Mr. Otis Neil Godbee, retired, Bibb County Sheriff’s Office" was present at a meeting of the Bibb County Board of Commissioners "to receive his retirement resolution and watch." Here's a link.

BTW, you sound pretty frustrated/angry. Why?

Thanks for looking into things...
 
I wonder if they will man up and apologize?:shakehead:


Sorry you think I have a "anti-Bonaire attitude"; I do question why the locals let it keep happening but have come to some better understandings, that do include that with the Bonaire fans defending the island in spite of B&E while sleeping, the locals seem to see the tourist well as never running dry - and you support that theory. Instead, I think it might go better to pass the word to all to insure well, keep records, file claims, etc as well as reduce exposure.

:rofl3: New on the Internet? There are better ways than making a phone call and taking the word of whoever answers. He retired a year after his published experienced, and after 5 years - I guess not all of the night employees know the name...
From: http://www.co.bibb.ga.us/minutes/05102005.pdf

It's on page 1 under RECOGNITION OF VISITORS if you need help there. :D

OH, BT was posting as I was working on it. Here is more...
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Oh, here is his other post on BT about him applying for police work on the island, which tells more about his police experiences: Bonaire Talk: Neil Godbee / Closing

I still question the sleeping spray, except there was one other report on SB about such - from a lady who still goes back?
 
DV, given all the break-ins on Bonaire, what extra security measures do you take when you rent your condos out to divers in your rental condos on Bonaire? Do you have deadbolts on the doors so divers will not be robbed when they sleep? Do you have armed guards patrolling the area? alarms? Should your guests take out an extra insurance policy for the damage that could occur to the condo rental during a break-in, if one should occur? Do you offer secure parking for divers rental trucks?


DD..I believe the answer to your question is that some folks who continuously bash Bonaire have very little real knowledge nor experience on the island. They repeat a theme over & over ad nauseum and in the end believe their own untruths.

I've been to Coz (and many other places in the Carib) and really have no plans of returning. We picked Bonaire to finally invest on because of the unique qualities of friendly people, easy diving, spectacular weather, no hurricanes, and a quality of living for the general population. Try it, spend time there and I do think you'll figure out why so many of us continue to return. It's not a coincidence that Bonaire is shaped like a boom-a-rang.;)
 
some folks who continuously bash Bonaire have very little real knowledge nor experience on the island.

Highlighting the ongoing crime problem that is hurting the island of Bonaire is not bashing. It's an attempt to inform divers. that might be considering going there, what the reality is: very little to nothing seems to be working to stem the crime tide on Bonaire. It's a shame.
 
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None of the tourist money is going to law enforcement to make Bonaire safer and none of the businesses are pressuring the Bonaire GOV to do anything. That being the case, GO SOMEPLACE THAT IS SAFER.
I can't tell if this is sarcasm. If it is OK... If not, could you fill us in on your source of this statement with links to anything that actually states what you claim here. Thanks
 
Nice story about the trucks being stolen, and the "special spray " the thieves used to make sure no one woke up! Do YOU (or anyone) know the guy was actually a police captain? Did you call the Bibb County Sheriff's Office? Has anyone called to verify who the story writer (or teller) was? Cause I just did, and guess what? There is no Neil Godbee there, and never was any Neil Godbee there. Amazing. Yet we are to believe this story? The first sentence starts off with an untruth...how does it get better from there?

He is in fact with the hospital and the folks at the Sheriff's Dept know who he is, so perhaps he is a bit of a truth stretcher? Maybe knows a Captain in the Sheriff's Dept? Maybe when he was a kid wanted to be one when he grew up? Bottom line, I read the letter that was posted, took it directly to the Bibb Couny Sheriff's Dept in Macon GA, and got the official answer, right from the proper end of the horse. So, do I need to use a special editor when I read "I am a Captain with the Bibb County Sheriff's Office" to really mean I work at a nearby hospital? Cut me a break!

My only real question is why would someone outright lie when making a post?

I did search and find that there was a Captain Otis Neil Godbee in the Bibb County Sheriff's Dept, threw a notice on his retirement from that dept @ a year after the date of that letter. I got no further info tho.

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The seat of the Netherlands Antilles government lies in Willemstad, Curacao.

Bonaire and each of the other four islands within the association maintain control over internal affairs, but it is the central government based in Curacao that regulates police affairs, post, telecommunications, aviation, public health, and education, among others.

The Netherlands Antilles government is based on a parliamentary democracy, and Parliament comprises a council of ministers and a prime minister.

Bonaire, the second largets of all the Netherlands Antilles, comprises six distinct townships and villages.

The island runs it's internal affairs through an elected legislative council, an advisory council, and executive council, comprising elected members of the island council.

A lietenant governor, who is appointed by the queen, lives in Kralendijk and oversees local issues.
I think that it's even worse than that. Not only are some matters of "the central government based in Curacao", to gain any need approval from The Netherlands, some matters have to also go thru offices in Sint Maarten.

Based on the below tho, I wonder who actually is responsible for management and funding of the Bonaire police...?

Last I knew the scuttle-butt was that Aruba, Cuarcao and one other island were to form an independent nation, in the very near future, while Bonaire would no longer be a part of the Netherlands Atillies, but instead is to become more directly dependent on and controlled from the Netherlands. The official currency used on Bonaire would also change to the US$ at that time.

At this time I am not up-to-date on the progress of all this, but if it is true then the information posted above, has or is soon to change.

Just passing along what I had heard late last year, but not stating it as confirmed fact!

That would explain in part DiverLiz's comment earlier about the new training of the police officers, and the stronger Dutch influence of laws and procedures of law enforcement.
 
I wonder if they will man up and apologize?:shakehead:


An apology must first be deserved and you are far from deserving PiFi. What I will do is state for the record that you have now copied and pasted your first truth it seems. Which, for the record you did not validate.

Have you changed anyone's mind about Bonaire? Doubtful but I suppose anything is possible. Has anybody denied that crimes exists on Bonaire? Never that I have seen. Has anybody said that they are happy about (or content with) the crime on Bonaire? Never that I have seen (excluding sarcasm). Have almost all of the posters stated clearly that they love diving on Bonaire so much (owners and travelers alike) that they are willing to take some simple precautions to prevent crimes (as works for most tourists to Boanire)? Definitely. Do those precautions work . Definitely. Do you still run the risk of being a victim of a crime on Bonaire even after precautions? Definitely but most people accept that this is the case anywhere in the world (even if you do not because it pokes holes in your scripted bashing notes). Is Bonaire any more unsafe than the rest of the world? Not in the opinion of many. Is a tourist more likely to get robbed on Bonaire than anywhere else in the world? I have not seen statistics that say that.....

If you can produce validated statistics proving that you are more likely to get robbed on Bonaire than anywhere else then I bet people will listen (maybe even me). Just repeating that "nothing is being done" does nothing but make you feel better and annoy all but a few posters (but it is still your option so carry on). Once you can produce the SOP for the Bonaire police force showing that they are intentionally doing nothing to curb crime on the island, then I bet people will listen. Once you can show statistically that crime has increased (or even not reduced but factoring in volume of tourists and the story behind each crime), then people will listen.

Until then, I am just thankful that you will be nowhere near the island when I am there next. By the way PiFi.....follow through on your promise to me just once.
 
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