Back plate and wings

[randytay]

Boy, am I glad for scubaboard!

Ok, my next question:

I see a difference with regards to harnesses, as someone has pointed out. There is one where its just a long piece of webbing which you thread... and then there is another one which is "ready-made", kind f like a regular BCD without the back and airpockets. Which is the way to go?

Ok, I know its subjective, but I do want to hear both sides. Thanks again!

 

[randytay]

"Ceteris paribus is a Latin phrase, literally translated as "with other things the same," or "all other things being equal or held constant." - From Wikipedia - which never lies

Yes, my question is suppose to have a comma before and after "ceteris paribus", and not really asking for the meaning of the phrase. But thank you anyway

 

[Jbell8289]

Boy, am I glad for scubaboard!

Ok, my next question:

I see a difference with regards to harnesses, as someone has pointed out. There is one where its just a long piece of webbing which you thread... and then there is another one which is "ready-made", kind f like a regular BCD without the back and airpockets. Which is the way to go?

Ok, I know its subjective, but I do want to hear both sides. Thanks again!

Save yourself the money and go for the one piece harness; infinite adjustability, no failure points, and is really not uncomfortable at all, nor is it hard to get on or off, a little different but not hard. and if someone has to cut u out of ur harness ur only out abt 10 bucks lol

 

[randytay]

This is a pretty good deal: BackPlate and Wing Package reviews and discounts, Dive Rite

SB member get an additional 10% off from scubatoys.com

You will want/need trim weight pockets (at least four, probably six).

As with all other systems, make sure you have sufficient lift for your conditions. Single tank: In a T-shirt you may need 12# or less (not sure). In a 3mm wetsuit you might need about 18# (again, not my setup so I am not sure). In a full 7mm two-piece you might want 30# lift or so (my setup - 24# can suffice, but 30 is better).

If you are going to be flying with it, AL might be better than SS.

Thanks for the link and detailed description. I'm bad with acronyms, what's AL and SS?

Edit: I found the answer. Thank you.

 

[randytay]

Save yourself the money and go for the one piece harness; infinite adjustability, no failure points, and is really not uncomfortable at all, nor is it hard to get on or off, a little different but not hard. and if someone has to cut u out of ur harness ur only out abt 10 bucks lol

Noted. Thank you

 

[TSandM]

As already said, start with a continuous harness, and if you can't come to terms with it, then you can buy the expensive kind with the releases and adjustments. Everybody I know who has STARTED with the adjustable kind has gone to the continuous harness, so you may as well start with the smaller investment. Realize that correct adjustment of the harness is key to being able to get in and out of it easily and to keeping the rig stable -- if you can find someone locally who really knows how to set one up, you'll save yourself a lot of experimentation.

Get a simple wing (no bungies or other adornments) and one which is properly sized for the kind of diving you do. In general, 30 lbs or so will suffice for most cold water diving; if you only dive in warm water, you could get something smaller. Plate material varies with what kind of diving you do, as well.

Buying the right setup the first time is the most efficient way to save money. For this reason, among others, I recommend Deep Sea Supply, because if you call Tobin (the owner), he will spend significant time with you, making sure that you end up with the DSS rig that will suit your requirements. Most of the other manufacturers do not offer such a service. And should you ever have problems with your DSS setup, you will get the same kind of service you got when you bought it.

 

[randytay]

Save yourself the money and go for the one piece harness; infinite adjustability, no failure points, and is really not uncomfortable at all, nor is it hard to get on or off, a little different but not hard. and if someone has to cut u out of ur harness ur only out abt 10 bucks lol

Where can I find that harness for 10 bucks? :shocked2:

 

[randytay]

Get a simple wing (no bungies or other adornments) ...

You lost me here. Please elaborate on bungies etc... I have no clue what those are... thanks!

 

[TSandM]

One of the theories on wings is to buy a lot more lift than you need, and then use restrictive cords to confine the excess bag. There are a number of problems with this approach, including the fact that a wing which has been forced into the shape of multiple balloons will tend to trap gas and be difficult to vent. In addition, you have poor streamlining because the outer surface is now very corrugated. In the event of a puncture, you may find it difficult to retain enough gas in the wing to compensate for whatever made you decide you needed the excess lift in the first place.

Choosing the right size wing and leaving it simple is a better option.

 

[rongoodman]

Where can I find that harness for 10 bucks? :shocked2:

You won't be able to find the one-piece harness for $10, but if you ever have to be cut out of it, you'll just have to replace the webbing, not all the hardware.