Avoiding "Cruise Ship" Locations

[Lorenzoid]

. . . So...I'm sure all Canadians aren't like the above, but they certainly put a sour taste in my mind.

From what I have experienced, and having some Canadian diver friends, my belief is that if you politely inform Canadians of their faux pas they will be totally and sincerely apologetic. I believe we Americans tend to be less apologetic, even when we know we messed up.

 

[HKGuns]

I've never been on a cruise as I spent too much time at Sea and being confined on a boat with thousands of strangers for a week sounds not like fun.

But talk about a broad, sweeping generalization and lumping people together into a single class of behaviors. This is pretty much the definition of elitist racism. However, the term has been twisted to be pretty much unrecognizable at this point.

As your profile shows you as living in the USA are you part of that group too? Or do you just not like folks who don't think or act like you?

Wow.

 

[Snoweman]

I read somewhere that Asians had taken over for the ugly Americans in Europe.

I mostly disagree about Cozumel. I've never run into cruise divers there. The reefs made a good rebound during the pandemic, but I think this was more due to the southern hotels being closed than cruise ships not being in port. Cruisers come in from 9 to 6, and then are gone. They rarely go back from the main drag more than one street. I'm usually diving for most of their visit, and can head to restaurants where they won't venture. The only really annoying thing I've experienced there was one ship blaring music on loudspeakers to welcome the cruisers back. I was staying in a front room at Casa Mexicana. The noise was coming through the sliding glass doors and also bouncing off the open air dining area wall, making the sound come in through the room door.

I agree with the idea of smaller ops. I've dived twice in Providencialis (not a cruise destination). First time was with a small op and was great. Second time was with an outfit that took us to the boat in a school bus. That wasn't nearly as good.

 

[wetb4igetinthewater]

I read somewhere that Asians had taken over for the ugly Americans in Europe.

British and mainland Chinese (the ones that travel in large tour groups NOT the ones that travel in small groups or smaller). For the latter, they are tolerated for the increased income they provide.

 

[Murphy in NC]

The Belize natives refer to the cruise ship folks as;

Overfed
Newly wed
Nearly dead

 

[Altamira]

The Belize natives refer to the cruise ship folks as;

Overfed
Newly wed
Nearly dead

Perhaps, but they sure do like the money cruise ships bring in to their little corner of paradise.

 

[Janie88]

From what I have experienced, and having some Canadian diver friends, my belief is that if you politely inform Canadians of their faux pas they will be totally and sincerely apologetic. I believe we Americans tend to be less apologetic, even when we know we messed up.

Not to belabor the point, but I am not anyone's mommy on vacation and should not need to point out rude behavior. If you think it is acceptable to throw your dive gear all over a boat, leave stuff in the middle of the boat in everyone's way, only start getting ready after we have stopped and it is time to jump in, then you shouldn't be on a boat dive and go shore dive where everything is up to you and you can put your stuff where you want.

I get so tired of people who feel the world revolves around them, and are so self-centered that they don't see how their behavior affects people around them. Both underwater, on the boat and on land!

I met some wonderful Canadians on a liveboard, so I should have added that to my statement about the rude/messy ones on the boat with us in Brac.

Rude behavior is not limited to any culture, and unfortunately you can find them everywhere. But same with great people too. Now...I will say that the generalization about cruise people has merits lol,.

 

[chillyinCanada]

Good point. I went to Santorini once and that was one time too many. The publicity photos did not show the crowds of hooligans!

I didn't encounter any crowds of hooligans in Santorini.

 

[chillyinCanada]

I agree that a lot of cruise ship people tend to be careless, both underwater and above. Now having said that, my husband and I and some friends who are all avid divers have gone on a few cruises together so I don't count us as the "typical" cruise diver!

Also, we had a horrible experience with some Canadians when diving Cayman Brac and staying at Brac Reef Resort. It was a group from Canada, they were the majority of divers on our boat, and were loud, with their stuff all over the place, and took forever to get off the boat into the water. Disorganized, and didn't care. They also had a handicapped diver who had to be led around by the DM on all dives and they never tipped.

So...I'm sure all Canadians aren't like the above, but they certainly put a sour taste in my mind. I think the better thought here is that discourteous people can exist anywhere. no matter where they are from. In general, I just find that common decency and manners are in shorter supply.

How do you know that they didn't tip?

 

[chillyinCanada]

I call cruisers "pod people"