*nods* I know he sells them for 13.50 a piece...what I am pissed about is I actually asked him if those were necessary and he told me "No all you need is some zip ties to stop tacoing." He just lost himself some easy money!Hop Devil:If your talking about the same famous name deal that is often mentioned in these threads he will gladlly sell you the bolts for about $12.50 each. That's the hook on that deal the base package is attractively priced but any accessory you buy goes for 3x the going price. If you dive without the sta I can pretty much assure you that you will be ordering one shortly. It makes the whole set up more stable.