Are the Super Wings too much?

[decoeric]

Oh, golly gee DE. Who said this for an opinion:
"Dual 130's alone weigh 94lbs empty not counting hardware and a manifold, they are negative 10lbs full but +.75 empty. With stage bottles and possibily a can light you are looking at well over 150lbs of gear? 55lb wings would not even keep you a float with that kind of gear, with out adding a ton of air to your dry suit"
I have dove way more weight than this, minimal air in my drysuit, and partially filled 55# lift wing. I must defy the laws of physics because your opinion can't be wrong.
Tilting at Windmills??? Think, then speak.

I made a mistake nothing more... I see now how people are treated around here... I personally believe that having a little more lift and dual bladders is a good thing.. I am not a physics major nor do I profess to be... So once again my opinion of wings and harness is still not wrong... My thinking behind lift may be, but that wasn't my original opinion.
Next...

 

[novadiver]

I made a mistake nothing more... I see now how people are treated around here... I personally believe that having a little more lift and dual bladders is a good thing.. I am not a physics major nor do I profess to be... So once again my opinion of wings and harness is still not wrong... My thinking behind lift may be, but that wasn't my original opinion.
Next...

Well said eric. hope these crusty divers don't stop you from posting in the future.

 

[decoeric]

Well said eric. hope these crusty divers don't stop you from posting in the future.

Nope, not even close. Because while they are sitting around in there underwear, banging away on this board this weekend making fun of people, I will be underwater, with my 100lb wings, SS-BP, reading my new physics book about displacement vs. bouyancy for dummies, on my deco hangs.

 

[decoeric]

Oh, golly gee DE. Who said this for an opinion:
"Dual 130's alone weigh 94lbs empty not counting hardware and a manifold, they are negative 10lbs full but +.75 empty. With stage bottles and possibily a can light you are looking at well over 150lbs of gear? 55lb wings would not even keep you a float with that kind of gear, with out adding a ton of air to your dry suit"
I have dove way more weight than this, minimal air in my drysuit, and partially filled 55# lift wing. I must defy the laws of physics because your opinion can't be wrong.
Tilting at Windmills??? Think, then speak.

I love you man

 

[msandler]

When I say drag, I mean they tanks will be hanging down out of the slipstream. With less weight (i.e. replace some of the nitrogen with helium), they tanks will start out closer to neutral. This is in reference to stage bottles if you haven't quite picked up on that yet.

Is that with a SS plate or the "trim correcting" Al. item. Dan, have you ever dove with stages? Why would they hang any differently? Maybe you just have too much strap between the bottle and the "D's". Maybe you are in over your head and to dumb to know it.
Closer to neutral? Please quantify this in exact figures given a 18/30 mix vs air in, lets say your 80cuft cylinder at 3400psi? Show your work. By the way, you choose your diving gases to satisfy the dive profile NOT your bouyancy. The reason we don't want a ton of He in our breathing gas is because it is absorbed in "slow compartments" almost 3 times faster than nitrogen thus resulting in additional deco (Henry's Law - before you embarass yourself again). You really don't kow what you are talking about. You are trying to relate your contradictions to diving but they are only contradictions for the sake of defending yourself and hiding your ignorance.

I'm done. Have at it.

 

[decoeric]

Is that with a SS plate or the "trim correcting" Al. item. Dan, have you ever dove with stages? Why would they hang any differently? Maybe you just have too much strap between the bottle and the "D's". Maybe you are in over your head and to dumb to know it.
Closer to neutral? Please quantify this in exact figures given a 18/30 mix vs air in, lets say your 80cuft cylinder at 3400psi? Show your work. By the way, you choose your diving gases to satisfy the dive profile NOT your bouyancy. The reason we don't want a ton of He in our breathing gas is because it is absorbed in "slow compartments" almost 3 times faster than nitrogen thus resulting in additional deco (Henry's Law - before you embarass yourself again). You really don't kow what you are talking about. You are trying to relate your contradictions to diving but they are only contradictions for the sake of defending yourself and hiding your ignorance.

I'm done. Have at it.

Nope, I love you more... Well said...

 

[Jcrain33]

Wow. Thanks for some of the advice, guys. I appreciate some the comments, and I laughed at other ones. You guys are pretty mean to each other sometimes!

Anyway, you helped me figure out what to purchase. I grabbed the Classic wing because it was able to accomodate both medium and larger doubles.

Now that my problem is resolved, maybe we should end this thread before someone ends up dead (or wrapped up in a big Wing and dumped into the river).

 

[novadiver]

Wow. Thanks for some of the advice, guys. I appreciate some the comments, and I laughed at other ones. You guys are pretty mean to each other sometimes!

Anyway, you helped me figure out what to purchase. I grabbed the Classic wing because it was able to accomodate both medium and larger doubles.

Now that my problem is resolved, maybe we should end this thread before someone ends up dead (or wrapped up in a big Wing and dumped into the river).

Good luck with your tech training, I f you have any more questions, please feel free to ask. As you can see, you'll get both sides of the debate and more here at scubaboard.

 

[novadiver]

Is that with a SS plate or the "trim correcting" Al. item. Dan, have you ever dove with stages? Why would they hang any differently? Maybe you just have too much strap between the bottle and the "D's". Maybe you are in over your head and to dumb to know it.
Closer to neutral? Please quantify this in exact figures given a 18/30 mix vs air in, lets say your 80cuft cylinder at 3400psi? Show your work. By the way, you choose your diving gases to satisfy the dive profile NOT your bouyancy. The reason we don't want a ton of He in our breathing gas is because it is absorbed in "slow compartments" almost 3 times faster than nitrogen thus resulting in additional deco (Henry's Law - before you embarass yourself again). You really don't kow what you are talking about. You are trying to relate your contradictions to diving but they are only contradictions for the sake of defending yourself and hiding your ignorance.

I'm done. Have at it.

If I had to pick a dive team, this man would be on it. I just think his "take no BS attitude" is what you look for in a team member.

 

[MikeFerrara]

Funniest thread I've seen in a while.

A 55 pound wing work just fine even when carrying quit a few stages and /or decompression bottles, dry suit, double 104's, can light and reels...ect.