Are Deep Dive and/or Wreck Dive specialties necessary?

[TMHeimer]

I recall reading somewhere (here?) that the 60 feet OW "limit" should be observed. But you can gradually go deeper with experience, especially if with an experienced buddy, possibly an instructor. I mean, we all know there are no rules and the rec. limit is 130'. So I guess the Deep Cert. is a good idea because you can just go right to 130 feet with an instructor during the course for 4 dives. But not a real necessity.
Wreck is an easier question for me-- Yes, take the course if you intend to penetrate the wreck. If not, just be careful you don't cut yourself or have something collapse onto you. Doubt one needs a course for that.

 

[tursiops]

short story long i will tell you not to invest in those specialties but rather get a tech 40 or whatever they call it (don't remember the exact name).

Cheers

A prerequisite for PADI TEC 40 is

• PADI Deep Diver or proof of 10 dives to 30 metres/100 feet or deeper

 

[AnnikaPersson]

Suggest you ask the dive operator you would like to go with....

If you ask me I would not allow, solo diving at all or deep air stuff, full stop.

 

[LI-er]

Suggest you ask the dive operator you would like to go with....

If you ask me I would not allow, solo diving at all or deep air stuff, full stop.

Yes I did that as I always do and if the Op is overly restrictive I won't dive with them. Especially if there are other options.

Not allowing me to solo dive wouldn't necessarily be a dealbreaker but I'd definitely shop around for a charter that respects the certification and my experience.

 

[Centrals]

This topic has been discussed nearly an infinite number of times, or maybe it only it seems that many. I'm rather sure you participated in some of those discussions. What you say is incorrect. The depths associated with open water, advanced open water, and deep diver are training depths, not post certification diving depth restrictions.

Of course, as discussed in this and many other threads, operators may place restrictions on divers to participate in certain dives.

You will be surprised to find out at least couple of operators in Philippines has depth limit on OW diver ie 18m.
The 18m is the recommendation by PADI on Ow cert. but some operators set their own regulation.
There is nothing right or wrong. Ask ahead if in doubt.

 

[Centrals]

In Cebu last week there was a discussion about dive insurance. One woman was telling a diver the insurance wont cover them if the divers dive below training depths and end up in a chamber. I told her she was wrong and she got quite testy with me. She said a chamber doctor would examine the dive computers. Two of the divers in our group are vacation divers with rental equipent helf up their arms.. no dive computers lol

So I pulled out my my phone and showed her DAN email to me stating all certifcations are covered to 40m recrational depth. She reads the email and has to concede she was only repeating what she had heard. I said dont repeat what you hear on the rumour grapevine.

More BS came from you.
What you do not know you do not know. Another good example here.
Some insurance policy has depth limit 30m eg. Blue Cross.
DAN is NOT the only one who supplies diving insurance. There are bus load of insurance companies and they all have various limitation or restriction on anything that they can think of and diving depth is one of them.
I have to cover my rec diving(beyond 40m and/or require compression) with the Preferred Plan by DAN Asia Paific which has no depth limit but requires respective training, equipment etc etc.

Depth is very important to make a claim under some policies while certification isn't that critical.

 

[34109411]

Suggest you ask the dive operator you would like to go with....

If you ask me I would not allow, solo diving at all or deep air stuff, full stop.

 

[AnnikaPersson]

He he... a bit hard to understand a thumbs down for a suggestion asking the dive operator if they allow solo diving (and depth limits etc). Some do, and some others don't. Guess that common sense... And I guess that is what the person behind this thread is also trying to find out by asking people's experiences.

 

[LI-er]

He he... a bit hard to understand a thumbs down for a suggestion asking the dive operator if they allow solo diving

Let's see if I can clarify it for you since you aren't grasping what should be a simple concept.

The solo/self reliant diver certification is taught and recognized by scuba diving organizations around the world as well as countless dive operators around the globe. Divers spend a lot of their hard earned cash and valuable time to achieve this certification to expand their diving options and experiences.

When a closeminded and overly restrictive individual such as yourself who makes an absurd comment to the effect of "No way solo Full Stop!" it's a clear message that you don't respect a diver's hard earned certifications nor their skills that can be demonstrated during a checkout dive.

 

[Centrals]

He he... a bit hard to understand a thumbs down for a suggestion asking the dive operator if they allow solo diving (and depth limits etc). Some do, and some others don't. Guess that common sense... And I guess that is what the person behind this thread is also trying to find out by asking people's experiences.

There is nothing to agree or disagree on this issue.
It is so obvious that the operator has the final say on anything regarding his own business.
What is wrong for asking ahead?

Customer is NOT always right.
Never ever assume anything on anything.