Are Deep Dive and/or Wreck Dive specialties necessary?

[tursiops]

While deep and wreck are not really necessary, they can be very valuable if taught by the right instructor.

I concur.

When I taught the classes I taught them as I taught tech classes. A great deal of extra material was added and I took much of that from my tech training.

Me too.

 

[Celt]

A 2 or 3 day narcosis management course between 30 and 40m is a gimmick. The time is to short and the depth range to shallow. It’s no better than a silly chamber dive with the buddies on a stag day out. At the very least it takes 8 days of diving starting in 100 feet and increasing both depth and bottom time out to 200 feet.

 

[LI-er]

I check before going and if solo is not allowed, I don't book with that op. I used to work to buddy up with someone on the boat who subscribed to the "same ocean" buddy system. But that was too hit or miss.

Funny you should say that. I do exactly the same thing and on my recent trip to Australia I offered that option to the restrictive dive Op who would have forced me to dive with a guide. I suggested they just hook me up with a buddy on the boat (thinking we'd probably end up doing our own thing anyway).

They declined that as well. All you can do is try...

 

[scubadada]

Hi @Celt

It's the recreational limit, a recreational course

 

[tursiops]

A 2 or 3 day narcosis management course between 30 and 40m is a gimmick. The time is to short and the depth range to shallow. It’s no better than a silly chamber dive with the buddies on a stag day out. At the very least it takes 8 days of diving starting in 100 feet and increasing both depth and bottom time out to 200 feet.

Agreed, in fact narcosis management is a bit of a scam. But nobody is talking about management, only about awareness, what it feels like.

 

[Celt]

Hi @Celt

It's the recreational limit, a recreational course

Sorry about that, I forgot ye have rec and tech limits, I only ever thought sport and commercial.

 

[Celt]

Agreed, in fact narcosis management is a bit of a scam. But nobody is talking about management, only about awareness, what it feels like.

But it says identifying and handling is that not management

 

[tursiops]

But it says identifying and handling is that not management

No. In thar course, you manage narcosis by not going so deep.

 

[Bert van den Berg]

They don't do the "solve the equation at depth" anymore? That should be a punishable crime.

I had to write my name, "Bert van den Berg" backwards at depth. I wrote "greB ned ned nav treB", writing "ned" twice instead of once.

 

[AnnikaPersson]

When a closeminded and overly restrictive individual such as yourself who makes an absurd comment to the effect of "No way solo Full Stop!" it's a clear message that you don't respect a diver's hard earned certifications nor their skills that can be demonstrated during a checkout dive.

Most likely one of the more open minded divers you can find. I always begin with the mind, and take it from there...

I never had any comments about check out dives - I actually think it is a good practise, both for the diver and the operator.

The solo/self reliant diver certification is taught and recognized by scuba diving organizations around the world as well as countless dive operators around the globe. Divers spend a lot of their hard earned cash and valuable time to achieve this certification to expand their diving options and experiences.

I´m fully aware of that there are certifications called Solo diver etc, however I acknowledge your time trying to explain it.

let me help you out so will you solo dive and deep dive if you just a regular diver and

I actually do not need any help in this matter, but thanks for the offer.
The answer is, no; I don't dive solo, however I do deeper dives.

If you find the tone difficult to grasp, stop saying "Full stop". It's comes across as confrontational and arrogant.

I have only said it once. And it might be a cultural issue, Norwegians are generally a bit to the point.

I see where you're going with this, excellent point and I think we both already know the answer.

But I'll bet you won't get an answer from her.

Well, you lost the bet. The answer is No I do not solo dive.


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