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Lisa,
Your response mirrors many of my friends that are Doctors or Dentists.
I am very aware that as a culture, the majority of Americans will almost always go for the "magic pill".
And they play right into the hands of big pharma....If you taped all the arthritis ads, anxiety ads, all the ads with disclaimers that take almost half of the time up going over how these drugs "could" leave you dead or comatose, or severely ill, then suggest you check with your doctor about why this might be the best thing ever for you...it is MIND BOGGLING that they go on to ask their doctor if they can take these "miracle drugs"....And I also know, if a doctor refuses to prescribe nonsense that these "astute" consumers are demanding from the ads...that they will go somewhere else.
I am not blaming doctors for this....but the advertising culture of the last 30 years has helped to shape these consumers into what they are.

If I was to be a kid again, and I had to be a doctor when I grew up, I would choose to be an ER Doc, because they get to TRY and fix the real issue. Not to say that they alone get to do this, but I think they get the most opportunities to do what they were hoping to do when they first got into med school. I have several ER docs as friends, and I like their attitudes about most medical issues.
Still, their is a "culture" in American Medicine, to treat the symptom. I think it would be hard to show that big pharma has not had a big hand in creating the tests and the screenings, that are suggestive of what drugs are ideal to treat the symptoms tested for.

Spend a day or two in an ER or urgent care. Your head will explode from all the abuse of the system.

Can you imagine the horror of the Diabetic Care industry, if someone like Joe Mercola got on the Dr Oz Show, and PROVED with a huge sample of adult diabetics from Oz's own Audience from 3 months back, that each Diabetic out of 30 in the original group, was no longer diabetic. This would shake the fabric of the industry, and this industry would collapse literally overnight. And though they would deserve to--there is a cure, the system will NOT make this easy....
And I counter that if there was proven to be a cure for diabetes, the majority of Americans would not accept it because they will have to work for it and make, they perceive, sacrifices. Much easier to take a pill and continue with their unhealthy lifestyle. Where did this attitude come from? Saying it is a from marketing and advertising is way too simplistic.

We know smoking cause many health problems. We took advertising off TV. People still smoke...


Equally as disturbing would be if Mercola did a really big presentation on the Oz show about x ray mammography, and the potential for actually causing cancer or metastasis..And then he would show the alternative of Thermography, how much safer, how much better it was as an indicator of breast cancer....and here we have a Big Business, that won't go down without a fight.....And "should" the XRay Mammography screeners even be allowed to fight? I think they should be educated about the daNger they pose....AND , they need to stop with the fear mongering and forcing women into dangerous screenings!!! And the Thermography labs need to be pushed. Is this the consumer, or is this the industry? :)

There are a lot of things that need to change in the healthcare industry, beyond the scope of this discussion. But the common denominator in all the problems is us. I can and do tell people they don't need a certain drug and tell them the possible side effects and they want it anyway. And this is medication that is not marketed in any way. I can tell them they don't need a test they want and why and even tell them the harm it can do and they want it anyway. I can sit down and try and to explain to them why they don't need an antibiotic for their cold and they will get mad and ask for another provider next visit. Much easier to just write the prescription and be done. This is not marketing or advertising of the pharmacutical companies but the standards of today's society.
 
Usually one stumbles out of a pub, no?

Perhaps one was in another pub first, yes?
 
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Usually one stumbles out of a pub, no?

Perhaps one was in another pub first, yes?


Maybe there is a reason they call it a pub crawl?

---------- Post added August 6th, 2013 at 08:59 PM ----------

as in, stumble in, crawl out
 
Ah, I was just about to watch that video about the grammar "police"...
I kinda dont have american english (or any form of english) as my primary or nativ language..

What's WRONG with you man, this is America. Love it or leave it. We speak English here, dammit!! You some kinda illegal alien?
 
OK, Wookie!! I feel you channelling posters from rec.scuba.

Ya, sometimes I miss it too.
 
I am still trying to understand why Pete refers to the Pub section in comparison to rec.scuba.....
 
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