Airtrim or Flight Control System

[murph-diver]

I have about 60 dives on my Dacor Nautica Air Trim. I have never had a problem with it. However, I just took PADI Rescue course and feel that in an emergency if someone who is not familiar with it were to try and rescue me it might cause problems. I am in the process of moving to a BP&W kit. I am somewhat apprehensive because it will require me to completely change the way I dive. I am very comfortable with the Dacor right now so it will be stretching my underwater skills. Currently, I am a DIR lurker, I have the fundamentals book and am contemplating the dir-f course.

The airtrim makes it so easy to maintain bouyancy. I feel like I'll be starting from scratch when I go to the BP&W's. What I really need is some specialized training on buoyancy and trim when i get the new setup. I dive a mares semi dry right now and am planning on going to a dry suit also. I think I'm going to change to the BP&W first and get used to that before going to the drysuit.

have you any particular backplate and wing in mind?

 

[crosing]

The LDS has Halcyon gear, either the Pioneer or the eclipse. Also thinking about Dive Rite equipment.

 

[MaresMan1]

Ok, Has anyone had a Airtrim BC or Flightcontrol BC fail on them? :06:

Did the faliure result in a deadly situation? :06:

What do you do if one of these BC's fails? :06:

I started diving with the Seaquest Pro QD. Nice BC but I was always pissed with the hose. Even went to the BP/W with the Transplate setup. Overkill for leisurely rec diving for me, and still stuck with that annoying hose (which developed problems and had to be repaired). Just an old PITA. There had to be a better way.

Enter the Mares Pegasus and Morphos. Simple, easy answer to a very old outdated BC design. I even had my son and his Navy Seal buds try the Morphos out. No problems, they all liked it. Just a simple change in routine and practice is what they said. Functions just like the hose in a locked position. Making anything more of it is ridiculous. Just another simpler way to do same thing. Not a trick or gaget. Confidence comes from practice of skills, no matter what you use.

Make sure you buddy knows how it works, make sure that you are up on your skills and lets stop making excuses for an outdated system just because most people are followers. We should be more concerned with how well we know how to dive.

Five manufacturers have now started making Airtrim style BCs. It's only the beginning of the changes about to come. I have taken my gear apart and maintained it myself and it is very simple an inexpensive too. As my father used to say, "If you cannot not except the future, then lye with the dust. The future waits for no one". In twenty years the BP/W and BC may go the way of the horse collar dive gear.

Bottom line, let's accept what we all dive with help each other be better divers and dive safe. Let's learn and grow and not get caught up in na na na na na.

Dive Smart; Dive Safe
Enjoy the ride
:cool1:

 

[murph-diver]

I started diving with the Seaquest Pro QD. Nice BC but I was always pissed with the hose. Even went to the BP/W with the Transplate setup. Overkill for leisurely rec diving for me, and still stuck with that annoying hose (which developed problems and had to be repaired). Just an old PITA. There had to be a better way.

Enter the Mares Pegasus and Morphos. Simple, easy answer to a very old outdated BC design. I even had my son and his Navy Seal buds try the Morphos out. No problems, they all liked it. Just a simple change in routine and practice is what they said. Functions just like the hose in a locked position. Making anything more of it is ridiculous. Just another simpler way to do same thing. Not a trick or gaget. Confidence comes from practice of skills, no matter what you use.

Make sure you buddy knows how it works, make sure that you are up on your skills and lets stop making excuses for an outdated system just because most people are followers. We should be more concerned with how well we know how to dive.

Five manufacturers have now started making Airtrim style BCs. It's only the beginning of the changes about to come. I have taken my gear apart and maintained it myself and it is very simple an inexpensive too. As my father used to say, "If you cannot not except the future, then lye with the dust. The future waits for no one". In twenty years the BP/W and BC may go the way of the horse collar dive gear.

Bottom line, let's accept what we all dive with help each other be better divers and dive safe. Let's learn and grow and not get caught up in na na na na na.

Dive Smart; Dive Safe
Enjoy the ride
:cool1:

wise words, but as my father says "sometimes the only difference between progress and regress is pr"

 

[Calvinator]

Hmmmm..... I do agree that there are some BC producers manufacturing Airtrim styled BC nowadays. Who knows the corrugated hosed BC are gonna be phased out one day just like the horse collar BCs? Good and strong opinion. It all bonds down to our knowledge and others too about how to use or rescue someone using these new gadgets. Good opinion. Way to go!!

Calvinator.

 

[pma]

I have just finished 2 weeks diving with a Morphos Pro (first time) and had no problems with it. It inflated and dumped fine using the auto and manual dumps, and gave me a nicer orientation in the water than I had experienced with any other BCD I had tried previously. I was very happy with my purchase.

Peter

 

[Calvinator]

I have just finished 2 weeks diving with a Morphos Pro (first time) and had no problems with it. It inflated and dumped fine using the auto and manual dumps, and gave me a nicer orientation in the water than I had experienced with any other BCD I had tried previously. I was very happy with my purchase.

Peter

Have you tried the Cressi Sub's flight control system? I'm wondering whether they perform as good as the airtrims.

 

[Calvinator]

I started diving with the Seaquest Pro QD. Nice BC but I was always pissed with the hose. Even went to the BP/W with the Transplate setup. Overkill for leisurely rec diving for me, and still stuck with that annoying hose (which developed problems and had to be repaired). Just an old PITA. There had to be a better way.

Five manufacturers have now started making Airtrim style BCs. It's only the beginning of the changes about to come. I have taken my gear apart and maintained it myself and it is very simple an inexpensive too. As my father used to say, "If you cannot not except the future, then lye with the dust. The future waits for no one". In twenty years the BP/W and BC may go the way of the horse collar dive gear.

MaresMan,

Hope you don't mind:

1) What's a "PITA"?

2) Any webpages which gives out manuals or tip or "how to-s" to service, repair or maintain the Airtrims??

Thanks.

Regards,
Calvin
Malaysia

 

[pma]

Have you tried the Cressi Sub's flight control system? I'm wondering whether they perform as good as the airtrims.

No, I didn't try a Cressi. I liked the look of the jacket as a whole, it was just the position of the FCS that put me off, I could see it getting caught on the edge of the boat every time my gear was hauled aboard, and I thought that it may end up with a short life as a result.

Peter

 

[crosing]

I am also interested in any info on maintaining the AirTrim system. Anyone do their own maintenance or have one maintained from a shop? Any recommended preventive maintenance?