A swim through history...

[TommyB]

Seeing how this thread is called swimming though History

How the sink got it's name
Early / Late 70's

In early October, Sheck Exley and Dale Sweet conducted exploration at L.B. in Florida. They entered at Stx Sink One and explored to K Sink, named after Dale Sweet’s wife.
(That's how the sink in the above pic got it's name, for those wondering about the history)

The next day of exploration started at K Sink, and extended past the Nxxx for a total exploration at 1,870’. On October 15 and 16, Steve F., Paul D., Doug C., and Wes Skiles extended Sheck’s line upstream by over 1,500’.

Upon Sheck’s return and surprise, he named the next sink he encountered Vengeance Sink due to what transpired.

There is the story of Jeff Bozanic surfacing at a sink and being removed at gun point,and waiting until the sheriff came,but that is another story.

Need to hear this story

 

[karstdvr]

Seeing how this thread is called swimming though History

How the sink got it's name
Early / Late 70's

In early October, Sheck Exley and Dale Sweet conducted exploration at L.B. in Florida. They entered at Stx Sink One and explored to K Sink, named after Dale Sweet’s wife.
(That's how the sink in the above pic got it's name, for those wondering about the history)

The next day of exploration started at K Sink, and extended past the Nxxx for a total exploration at 1,870’. On October 15 and 16, Steve F., Paul D., Doug C., and Wes Skiles extended Sheck’s line upstream by over 1,500’.

Upon Sheck’s return and surprise, he named the next sink he encountered Vengeance Sink due to what transpired.



Need to hear this story

Pretty sure I wrote that for CD A&O

 

[TommyB]

Pretty sure I wrote that for CD A&O

I know
I host it remember

 

[karstdvr]

I know
I host it remember

duh...you are right...poor memory from all those air dives at Eagles Nest that we did before trimix.

 

[SuPrBuGmAn]

Hey dumb ass, if he don't want it talk about then I guess someone should not be posting pics and dive reports.

Posting pics and reports of a nameless hole in the ground doesn't do anything to increase traffic.

 

[marchand]

Hey dumb ass, if he don't want it talk about then I guess someone should not be posting pics and dive reports.

Yeah, because the picture and dive report makes the name and location completely obvious to people who haven't been there.

 

[ucfdiver]

I have 100's of hours in that system from a 3C grade survey we've worked on as conditions allow. The #18 line is original survey line and can be very fragile,so as a rule we don't put stages on the line,usually use a jump line to stages. Also,there are some very unstable areas in that system that when you see tell-tale signs,don't linger,but move along. I've had a couple good collapses land on me. The duct tape "dorf" markers are more likely Sheck's because he did a majority of the survey,and exploration. How did Vengence sink get it's name? The story goes is that Sheck was doing the exploration,and he and Dave Sweet stopped around Trap sink . Sheck left town,and Paul DeLoach and Steve Forman layed some line where Sheck left off. Sheck was so put out when he got back,that he layed line,and the first sink he encountered was called Vengence sink. One other thing is don't surface at the sink holes that you don't know the owner as a general rule. There is the story of Jeff Bozanic surfacing at a sink and being removed at gun point,and waiting until the sheriff came,but that is another story.

Thanks Kelly. In another somewhat nearby system Jeff recently had a volleyball sized rock fall on him. I'm not a big fan of that, but it seems like almost all these caves have at least some risk of collapse.

Any idea why the 1st magnitude systems seem to have more stability than others?

I can appreciate this,that is why I don't post reports of places I dive. In this case why not post the state park access point,which is open to everyone. Entry from this point is very unique,and offers two insurgence/resurgences in a very short distance (very unique).

Main reason we didn't go there was the crawling across the sinks and all the historical line has been removed. I typically leave names out of dive reports because let's face it, no one wants another Ginnie, Little River, or Peacock. However, I do like reading others reports because they let you know there's more to see out there, even if I can't look up coordinates

 

[JahJahwarrior]

High flow systems might remove weaker rock that can stay in place in a low flow system, until a diver disturbs something enough to dislodge the rock. A high flow would wear the rock down gradually, while in a low flow system, the rock, weakened by carbonic acid, but not worn down, would have more of a chance to remove itself in larger chunks.

I've found crumbly rock in high flow systems, in low flow tunnels....

 

[SuPrBuGmAn]

I've found crumbly rock in high flow tunnels in high flow systems... alot of it depends on the limestone in the area.

 

[LiteHedded]

I've found crumbly rock in high flow tunnels in high flow systems... alot of it depends on the limestone in the area.

and how hard you smash into it