a retreat from DIR

[Soggy]

DIR: The fundamentals of good diving (Page 60). Looks like the right hand to me (probably just did it for illustration purposes)

There are several errors in that book where photos were printed in reverse. I don't have the book in front of me, but does the person's regulator come into the mouth from the right side and is the cannister on the left?

 

[*Floater*]

DIR: The fundamentals of good diving (Page 60). Looks like the right hand to me (probably just did it for illustration purposes)

That's clearly just for illustration, but check p. 77: Deploying the 7' hose (with goodman handle in right hand and cord wrapped around the arm to take up the extra).

 

[cerich]

Isn't that "published" in Adobe? Should take all of 30 seconds (20 for programm to open 7 to find picture and 3 to flip) to fix.....

 

[JeffG]

Isn't that "published" in Adobe? Should take all of 30 seconds (20 for programm to open 7 to find picture and 3 to flip) to fix.....

The first book is paper. The pdf's are the cave and tech manuals.

 

[grazie42]

Originally Posted by DIR-Atlanta
It's not further away in terms of distance from the body. It is further away in terms of distance from the left post - more hose == more risk of entanglement, and having it hang below the plane of your body increases that risk. If it gets hung up in a low area where you do not have clearance to reach it, then that's going to be a bad situation. Not to mention the fact that it complicates loosening the crotch strap if you have to remove the gear (for example to climb out of the water).

Regarding the ability to "see" it, I am having a really hard time visualizing that. In my normal trim position, there is no way I could see a gauge hooked to my crotch ring, let alone read the numbers off of it. Also, I don't need to "see" the SPG on my hip to unclip it - I do that by "feel". If something happened where I needed to see it, then I would get my buddy's assistance to have a look (something that may not be possible if it's clipped to the crotch ring).

More hose in length does not = greater entanglement risk (to me)...
That would make the longhose the greatest entanglement risk ever...As long as all the hose is close to your body (just as the longhose is) then I don´t see how there´s a greater risk :06:

It doesen´t complicate my crotchstrap as I have a QR on mine which is not connected to the "scooter ring" (sorry about not stating that) but even if it did all you´d have to do is unclip it (which any DIR diver should be VERY proficient at)

As to "seeing it" if you are horizontal and look down the face of the spg is turned towards you...no need to clip/unclip...it is the same when clipped to left d-ring...I never need to unclip it...which is kind of the point...specially as it relates to the OP´s concerns...

So what has your experience been with clipping/unclipping the SPG in that situation? Do the deco bottles interfere with your ability to do that smoothly?

As stated above...I don´t need to...I "push" the bottles to the side and look at it (often I don´t even have to do that)...all my local diving is done with smurf-gloves...I don´t clip/unclip any more than I have to...

If you have to wrap your light cord when the lighthead is on your left hand, then odds are the cord is too long. It should be just the right length to stretch from the top of the light canister to your outstretched left hand. Regarding the cord placement, if it goes "through" the loop that is made by the long hose, then not only do you not have to worry about threading it when you change hands, you also do not have to worry about trapping the long hose when you clip off your lighthead. All things considered, that seems like a much simpler configuration option to me.

The wrapping on the left was for the OP...I don´t...regarding the cord-threading...I do it just like you described...I must be pretty bad at explaining this stuff, huh?

At least we´re discussing this instead of shouting or calling eachother names...

 

[cerich]

The first book is paper. The pdf's are the cave and tech manuals.

Thanks, It's been a while but you jostled my memory!

 

[Soggy]

More hose in length does not = greater entanglement risk (to me)...
That would make the longhose the greatest entanglement risk ever...As long as all the hose is close to your body (just as the longhose is) then I don´t see how there´s a greater risk :06:

The problem is that the crotch D-ring should be basically the lowest point in the water. If you add an SPG there, it now is an entanglement hazzard, dragging a couple inches down below your body.

I dive with smurf gloves, too. Practice makes perfect. Hip dring is out of the way and streamlined.

 

[grazie42]

Originally Posted by Soggy
The problem is that the crotch D-ring should be basically the lowest point in the water. If you add an SPG there, it now is an entanglement hazzard, dragging a couple inches down below your body.

I dive with smurf gloves, too. Practice makes perfect. Hip dring is out of the way and streamlined.

But I can assure you that my spg is horizontal to the crotch d-ring...I´m not in the habit of photoing my crotch so I don´t have a pic...but one would propably explain more than I am able...you´ll just have to take my word for the fact that it is, in fact, horizontal to the crotch d-ring...

Like I said, I do dive with it on the hip d-ring (the left) and even there I can look at it without unclipping...so I do...

 

[Soggy]

But I can assure you that my spg is horizontal to the crotch d-ring...I´m not in the habit of photoing my crotch so I don´t have a pic...but one would propably explain more than I am able...you´ll just have to take my word for the fact that it is, in fact, horizontal to the crotch d-ring...

Like I said, I do dive with it on the hip d-ring (the left) and even there I can look at it without unclipping...so I do...

If it is flush against your crotch strap, there is no possible way you could read it without moving it. Even if it is flush, it still adds to your profile in the worst possible place.

 

[rjack321]

And you run the risk of breaking the glass - which can happen.