a retreat from DIR

[xiSkiGuy]

what if the inventor of electricity was a pedofile, alcoholic murderer?

that doesn't mean electricity is a bad thing

Mama Boucher:Ben Franklin is the Devil! I invented electricity!

 

[H2Andy]

now THAT is funny




Coach: What part of the snake are we eating?

Mama: Well, snakes don't have what you call parts. But if i had to call it
something, I'd say we're eating its knee.

 

[all4scuba05]

Well there's a new group of elite divers being formed out there. They're called the Partly DIR Divers. They practice some of what the DIR divers swear by. They're not 100% DIR for different reasons. Some can't afford it. Some are still working on it. And some have noticed that for some of their dives, doing 100% of the DIR thing just won't work.

So wether DIR likes it or not, there will always be a group of divers who will only apply SOME of those fundamentals. And guess which group is bigger? The Partly DIR Dvers group. Why? because there will always be divers who look at the idea and think about how it applies to their dive. THEN and only then will they decide if its a good idea.

In the DIR group there are those that study each detail, understand why it's correct, and then apply it. Then there's another fraction of the DIR group that memorize it, and just do it because they can't think for themselves. If a poll was taken and EVERY DIR divers says he agrees with every DIR opinion, then that only proves that quite a few of them just follow the crowd and can't think on their own.

Flame away....

 

[*Floater*]

Andy, you could try to roll up some of your light cord, zip tie it together near the top of the canister to shorten it (as only a temp solution only of course), duct tape the loop shut so it doesn't entangle, and then do a few dives like that while using the light primarily in your left hand to see if the shorter cord would solve your entanglement issues while still remaining long enough for other use.

For the SPG, if you give up the computer, then you would need to start tracking your average depth in your head and by extension you would find tracking your remaining gas in your head fairly easy. That should eliminate the need to have the SPG some place where you can look at it easily. In fact, if you tracked your gas consumption accurately in your head, then you would probably end up wanting to have the SPG out of the way.

Anyway, I'm not trying to convince you to dive DIR. I think you should dive anyway you feel like, but I'm just not sure you've given the system enough of a chance.

 

[H2Andy]

Floater, i think i've heard several good things to try.

the first thing will be to shorten the chord. i'll get with dive rite on that. even
if i end up using it on the right hand after trying it, less chord on the right hand
can't hurt.

we'll see how that goes

as to the SPG, that is the smaller of the two issues. if the short light chord
works, i'll probably go back to the hip d-ring just to stay closer to the DIR
config (whose value, i readily concede, lies in its holistic configuration)

 

[plankspanker]

I see an awful lot of agreeing going on, group hug anyone?

never mind, someone pulled out the old "can't think for themselves" argument. Which is sort of ironic considering that is a pretty stale argument. In a sense you can say that anyone who uses that argument can't think for themselves either.


I told you, it's not BO it's a medical condition
VVVVVV

 

[H2Andy]

not unless you take a shower first

 

[DIR-Atlanta]

How is the spg any further "away" from the body on the crotch d-ring? It´s actually lying flat, against your crotchstrap...maybe you, or I, am picturing this wrong...at most it´s a difference of an inch...getting it free is way simpler because you can actually see it...which is why I like it there...no clipping/unclipping to see it...

It's not further away in terms of distance from the body. It is further away in terms of distance from the left post - more hose == more risk of entanglement, and having it hang below the plane of your body increases that risk. If it gets hung up in a low area where you do not have clearance to reach it, then that's going to be a bad situation. Not to mention the fact that it complicates loosening the crotch strap if you have to remove the gear (for example to climb out of the water).

Regarding the ability to "see" it, I am having a really hard time visualizing that. In my normal trim position, there is no way I could see a gauge hooked to my crotch ring, let alone read the numbers off of it. Also, I don't need to "see" the SPG on my hip to unclip it - I do that by "feel". If something happened where I needed to see it, then I would get my buddy's assistance to have a look (something that may not be possible if it's clipped to the crotch ring).

I don´t do deco in caves (yet) but I do in the ocean...let´s just leave it at that...

So what has your experience been with clipping/unclipping the SPG in that situation? Do the deco bottles interfere with your ability to do that smoothly?

I meant the LEFT...sorry for making you type all that... Though WHEN I use my right hand I thread the light cord beneath the longhose and when I swith back I thread it back underneath...

If you have to wrap your light cord when the lighthead is on your left hand, then odds are the cord is too long. It should be just the right length to stretch from the top of the light canister to your outstretched left hand. Regarding the cord placement, if it goes "through" the loop that is made by the long hose, then not only do you not have to worry about threading it when you change hands, you also do not have to worry about trapping the long hose when you clip off your lighthead. All things considered, that seems like a much simpler configuration option to me.

Thank you for your detailed and reasonable responses...

You're quite welcome.

 

[RobbieTheHun]

DIR: The fundamentals of good diving (Page 60). Looks like the right hand to me (probably just did it for illustration purposes)

 

[H2Andy]

i think i've seen that picture ... dont have the book in front of me

but i do know that the DIR-F class taught the light on the left


(sorry for my earlier reply... totally misunderstood your post)