3 unaccounted for after a flooded magnesite mine 'Maria Concordia' dive in Poland

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Also, I am wondering... if they were disoriented and at the T, with such low visibility and a damaged line, the only way to know for sure the direction was to use a compass. I wonder whether the instructor and the students actually knew which direction to follow.

Given that the rescuers found so much equipment in the wrong direction, I am thinking that they just didn't know where they had to go (which is another negative point for the instructor, he should have known the orientation of the cave...)
I never thought about this but does a compass work well in a mine?

I guess unless there are a lot of metal deposits, it’d work.

Is it standard protocol for cave divers to check compass directions regularly so they can come back if they lose the line?

Would you expect an instructor who violated basic rules to have planned so far ahead?
 
When the vis is really ZERO it's crazy disorienting, it can be hard to discern up from down and left from right. If nothing else this accident reinforces how even in a tube the guideline is a critical navigational element.
 
When the vis is really ZERO it's crazy disorienting, it can be hard to discern up from down and left from right. If nothing else this accident reinforces how even in a tube the guideline is a critical navigational element.
Agreed. Had it cleared even a little then student 2 with his 4 bottles swoops in, passes them around (eh, ok, maybe not the o2 bottle) and everybody follows his yellow line out and they all have a hell of a story to tell at the pub.
 
I never thought about this but does a compass work well in a mine?
compasses sometimes don't work in caves...

This was a magnesite mine, those minerals are highly magnetic, nevermind the ore cart rails.
 
compasses sometimes don't work in caves...
I bring a compass with me and use it when I cave dive; but I don't check it regularly, only when directions change significantly... I thought it was a good idea (and I still think so)
This was a magnesite mine, those minerals are highly magnetic, nevermind the ore cart rails.
Ok, so in this case probably the compass wouldn't work
 
I bring a compass with me and use it when I cave dive; but I don't check it regularly, only when directions change significantly... I thought it was a good idea (and I still think so)
It depends.
Some caves follow a contact with igneous rocks which can be iron rich and mess with a compass.
 
Some of you have contributed very insightful observations. They made me conclude the following (my pure conjecture):

1) Instructor knew full well where he was - he was teaching courses in this very area, I bet you he could get out of there anytime in any visibility, with no line or compass (it is a tube).
2) The autopsies did not reveal any trauma - there was no 'fighting'.
3) If you look at the YT video I posted showing the wooden frame area (the 1st video), you will see that there is an air pocket just before the wooden frame. I think this is where Student 1 and Instructor decided to 'breathe' and that's why their helmets were found there (it is easier to stick your face to the narrow air pocket without a helmet).
4) Using the air pocket could have been a way of beating the total silt out in order to communicate or check compass/map etc, as well as breathing the atmosphere that sustains life.
5) Student 2 took an oxygen tank with him through the stone dam during the rescue attempt to purge the air pocket, which due to breathing would contain more and more CO2. If purged with air, the O2 concentration would always be below 21%. With oxygen, the O2 concentration in the breathable pocket was being enriched to levels supporting life.
6) Student 2 left stages before the stone dam as he knew the team would need them to surface and do deco. It was impractical for him to squeeze with all four through the stone dam (the videos I posted contain sequences of divers squeezing through a stone dam before they reach the wooden frame - that could be the stone dam in question, it is not too wide).
7) Student 2 laid a line from the wooden log to the T area to prepare evacuation or show the way for the rescue team.
8) I believe Student 2 honestly believed the rescue party is coming very soon - there must have been discussions on the surface between the Observer and Student 2. Note, that the Observer did go into the water again after Student 2 went to look for missing divers. The Observer did not go past the dam though.
9) The Instructor did not want to leave the panicked student alone and stayed with him hoping for the rescue to arrive - he knew there are 5 divers on the surface who know they are in trouble, it would not have been totally irrational thinking.
10) What caused the initial bolting to the air pocket of Student 1 and subsequently the Instructor is unknown, probably panicking. Note that if you remove gear in zero vis there is zero chance you can find and put it back even if someone brings you a tank with air, which in that scenario were not even full.

I think we are looking here at two heroic efforts of Instructor and Student 2 to rescue Student 1. Unfortunately, they ran out of air as they did not have any fresh tanks at the surface and the rescue party never came.
 
I think we are looking here at two heroic efforts of Instructor and Student 2 to rescue Student 1. Unfortunately, they ran out of air as they did not have any fresh tanks at the surface and the rescue party never came.
If true, they broke major rule about rescue: do not make yourself a victim.
I have 2 big caves 5 clicks from my house and will probably start on cave training this year, but reading accidents like this shows me how much there is to learn.
 
1) Instructor knew full well where he was - he was teaching courses in this very area, I bet you he could get out of there anytime in any visibility, with no line or compass (it is a tube).

No guideline, no vis, debris all over and freezing cold water with dry gloves on so there's no way to recognize the floor or walls or mine structures by feel = you are likely to die.
 
If true, they broke major rule about rescue: do not make yourself a victim.
As a former rescuer, that rule means that one must ensure safety before making any rescue attempt. If the divers who died while attempting a rescue thought they were safe enough, they didn't break any rule - they just made miscalculations.

You can argue that rescuers shouldn't make miscalculations. The answer is that we are human, and we make mistakes. The only way to prevent this type of mistake is to have brain redundancy (which is why rescue teams are usually teams comprising more than one person), and they didn't have it. You just cannot blame them for the rescue attempt; they tried what they could.

On the other hand, everything they (especially the instructor) did before is quite insane.
 
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