For Sale Xdeep NX Zen Standard: Large steel plate, white+black wing

[HamTrainChickenLaser]

quick google brings me to a claim that your old bcd has 34 lbs of lift, guessing that's false since you made a point of it? and just to be clear, can you spell out the implication of this? would you ask for a measured lift value if i was selling a diverite wing that they claim has 30 lbs of lift?

and as an aside since we're getting into it:
1. there are very few people who the specific weight of a steel backplate matter to, none of them are total beginners that dive in a 5mm wetsuit. please don't try to make the argument that it actually matters to a beginner (or the majority of divers) whether it is 5 lbs or 6 lbs, i can't take that seriously.

2. you really think asking me whether it will fit a 5'8" 170lb male is a good question? to me that just indicates a person who is 50% likely to screw up the webbing setup and then complain

Indeed it has 27 pounds of lift. You won't find that in the manufacturer's specs, but you will find it on the tag of my bcd.

Diving is loaded with equipment that has all kinds of idiosyncrasies and a little bit of patience with new folks goes a long way. Some things that seem obvious to you as an experienced diver will be confusing to someone without much experience. They might buy it and screw it up and complain- or they might buy it and say "hey I am a little confused about how to adjust this- would you mind answering a couple of questions for me?" Sometimes even a small bit of willingness to share knowledge makes the world a better place for everyone, and especially you can find gratification in sharing the benefit of your wisdom and experience in diving with someone who has the fresh excitement and passion for it but needs to fill in the gaps in their understanding.

 

[deansrv72]

quick google brings me to a claim that your old bcd has 34 lbs of lift, guessing that's false since you made a point of it? and just to be clear, can you spell out the implication of this? would you ask for a measured lift value if i was selling a diverite wing that they claim has 30 lbs of lift?

and as an aside since we're getting into it:
1. there are very few people who the specific weight of a steel backplate matter to, none of them are total beginners that dive in a 5mm wetsuit. please don't try to make the argument that it actually matters to a beginner (or the majority of divers) whether it is 5 lbs or 6 lbs, i can't take that seriously.

2. you really think asking me whether it will fit a 5'8" 170lb male is a good question? to me that just indicates a person who is 50% likely to screw up the webbing setup and then complain

Such hubris. And, what low expectations for new divers, you have. I sure hope to never dive with/learn from you, or your ilk. Jeez.

 

[bassplayer]

Such hubris. And, what low expectations for new divers, you have. I sure hope to never dive with/learn from you, or your ilk. Jeez.

you sure got dramatic. i think i read you pretty well

 

[BigGixx]

I'm afraid this isn't true. Let's play a game. I have this particular BCD- my very first before I went to a BP/W:

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Mine is the size XL/2XL. Can you tell me the lift? I'll bet that you can't. This is why it's a reasonable question. I do understand the seller's point of view, but at the same time if you are selling something it's probably a good idea to be willing to answer some basic questions.

A system that is modular like a BP/W might not be 100% original- the owner could have changed something or had the retailer modify a configuration. Even on a system that is "factory made" and not modular, sometimes the manufacturer specs as published do not match the reality.

Excellent response but not what was ask

I believe that poster was interested in potentially getting his first bpw setup and was asking various questions on other threads. more power to him, and i hope it goes well - just that i'm not a store or an instructor so prefer to avoid any sort of situation where someone might buy it but then have trouble diving it and be dissatisfied.

Totally understandable, after rereading what I posted I was not trying to come off as a DI*K. Was not my intention but it seems like it did.