New Apple Watch is a dive computer

[KenGordon]

This is what I got back from Apple developer support. I encourage anyone who’d like to see a good selection of DC apps to provide feedback to Apple via the link provided. When I provided feedback I linked to this thread so it would be nice if people could lay off with the negative views of corporations such as Apple and Huish.

https://feedbackassistant.apple.com



Please include the line below in follow-up emails for this request.

Follow-up:
Hello Ken,

Thank you for contacting Apple Developer Technical Support (DTS).

DTS hasn’t any informaton on when the entitlement will become a vailable.
We can only recommend that you submit an enhancement request that the entitlement be made public. That way, you can be notified if and when it is made available to developers such as yourself. You can submit your request via Feedback Assistant (https://feedbackassistant.apple.com). For more information on Feedback Assistant, please visit <Bug Reporting - Apple Developer>.

While a Technical Support Incident (TSI) was initially debited from your Apple Developer Program account for this request, we have assigned a replacement incident back to your account.

Best Regards,

Developer Technical Support
Worldwide Developer Relations
Apple, Inc.

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On October 08, 2022 at 13:07:27 PM GMT, ken@ wrote:

Name: Ken Gordon
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E-mail: ken@
Team Name: Ken Gordon
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PLATFORM AND VERSION
watchOS
Apple Watch Ultra with either watchOS 9.0.1 or watchOS 9.1 beta 3 (20S5055e)


RELEASE
public

FEEDBACK ASSISTANT ID


DESCRIPTION OF PROBLEM
I am developing a dive computer application for the Apple Watch Ultra.

I believe I need some Apple controlled entitlement for CoreMotion using CMWaterSubmersionManager. Could you please let me know the process to get this entitlement. The support forum answer says it is not yet public. Could you tell me when it might become public or who I should contact for a commercial conversation about access.

Reasoning: having wired up an instance of CMWaterSubmersionManagerDelegate the handler func manager(_ manager: CMWaterSubmersionManager, errorOccurred error: Error) sees errors "Error Domain=CMErrorDomain Code=110" which corresponds to CMErrorNotEntitled.


See also Getting not entitled error with Wa… | Apple Developer Forums

STEPS TO REPRODUCE
Here is a link to an example Xcode project that demonstrates the problem. It is a .tgz file.

 

[Bill McDavid]

Would have thought that using an Apple Watch on a liveaboard is about the most perverse thing you could do. OK, maybe there's other perverse things...

Point is that you're on a liveaboard to get away from the hussle and bussle of life: people constantly grabbing your time, diaries, emails, IM's, deadlines, etc., etc. You're on a liveaboard to get away from that eternal crap.

Having been "working" from home for the past 2 and a half years, I don't even need a watch let alone some nagging Apple Watch. Which, ironically, is where the Ultra comes in: seems to be designed for outdoor life, subject to a ridiculously short battery life measured in hours -- would hardly use it "on walkabout".



I guess Apple did an exclusivity deal with Oceanic in order for them to develop the software for a new market of outdoors activities. Apple gets the kudos of whole new market for literally zero investment. Win-win for both Apple and Oceanic.

Right on! I quit wearing my Apple Watch altogether over a year ago. Damn thing interferes with life and work in a constant and overbearing way. Some day, I will throw my iPhone in the ocean and be done with it. The watch will go with it.

 

[Belzelbub]

Right on! I quit wearing my Apple Watch altogether over a year ago. Damn thing interferes with life and work in a constant and overbearing way. Some day, I will throw my iPhone in the ocean and be done with it. The watch will go with it.

You can't adjust the notifications? Seems odd if you can't.

Like most things with technology, they can be a helpful tool, or they can take over your life. When I first got my Garmin, it was a bit overbearing. I turned several of the notifications off, so now I only get the ones that I deem important enough.

 

[rongoodman]

You can't adjust the notifications? Seems odd if you can't.

You absolutely can.

 

[Hoyden]

I had 6 dives with the Ultra along with my Teric last weekend in Cozumel. Good to see that the Apple Watch ultra and my Teric registered the same info:

• same depth (apple watch rounds up to the nearest ft while Teric goes 1 digit after the decimal point)
• same dive time (+/- 1 sec with auto activation)
• 1 Celsius degree difference for water temperature (Teric is consistently 1 degree higher; both fully exposed)

Thanks for this information as I will add an AWU as a back-up to my Teric at some point. My current Apple watch is a series 6 so I won't upgrade for awhile.

Jackie

 

[Rick Brant]

This is what I got back from Apple developer support. I encourage anyone who’d like to see a good selection of DC apps to provide feedback to Apple via the link provided. When I provided feedback I linked to this thread so it would be nice if people could lay off with the negative views of corporations such as Apple and Huish.

You may want to sign up for the Ask Apple developer event and then ask about this topic.

 

[Lostdiver71]

I no longer trust product reliability from Apple! My 14th Apple Watch has just crapped out. I have now had 6 series 5, 6 series 6 and 2 series 7 watches die on me for no reason! All of the series 5 and 6 watches had screen failures and now both series 7’s have had button failure Issues. Once they send me a new series 7 under the Apple Care warranty I will be selling it and purchasing a Garmin Descent!

 

[tridacna]

I no longer trust product reliability from Apple! My 14th Apple Watch has just crapped out. I have now had 6 series 5, 6 series 6 and 2 series 7 watches die on me for no reason! All of the series 5 and 6 watches had screen failures and now both series 7’s have had button failure Issues. Once they send me a new series 7 under the Apple Care warranty I will be selling it and purchasing a Garmin Descent!

I pity the poor Garmin reps. Apple Customer Service will probably throw a big party when you retire your last watch.

 

[L13]

I no longer trust product reliability from Apple! My 14th Apple Watch has just crapped out. I have now had 6 series 5, 6 series 6 and 2 series 7 watches die on me for no reason! All of the series 5 and 6 watches had screen failures and now both series 7’s have had button failure Issues. Once they send me a new series 7 under the Apple Care warranty I will be selling it and purchasing a Garmin Descent!

Wow! I would have bailed after 2 or 3 at the most!

 

[tmrqs]

I no longer trust product reliability from Apple! My 14th Apple Watch has just crapped out. I have now had 6 series 5, 6 series 6 and 2 series 7 watches die on me for no reason! All of the series 5 and 6 watches had screen failures and now both series 7’s have had button failure Issues. Once they send me a new series 7 under the Apple Care warranty I will be selling it and purchasing a Garmin Descent!

I have to ask: what activities did you perform with your watches on to go through that many units in a couple of years?