Trip Report PDC: Full cave Aug 2022

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Wow, 5mill in 81f water (plus the surface temp)? I'd probably be in a skin or lavacore. I'd have a heat stroke in a 5 for sure. Cave class, at least the one I took (and apparently yours) ain't easy. Congratulations!

We weren’t in the 81 degree water for long. That was below the halocline.

As soon as I was in wetsuit I booked down to the water and dunked myself good before porter bought my SM rig down. I follow the same practice boat diving the Great Lakes or shore diving any of the inland sites when the weather is hot and humid. Get myself throughly wet (including my head) before I get suited up. I’ll hang out in the water for a bit.[/QUOTE]
 
Congratulations, Marie!!

We'll make a warm water diver out of you yet. Too bad you didn't get to Angelita or El Pit. You would have loved the clouds.

I’ve never liked heat and humidity. Cold is good. You also don’t have hot flashes to deal with. 🥵🔥
 
Hmmmmmmmmm heading to the cenotes next month. I got a 5mm since I thought I might be cold. I was fine in my 3mm last time but doing some training this time so figured longer in-water-time had me concerned
 
Hmmmmmmmmm heading to the cenotes next month. I got a 5mm since I thought I might be cold. I was fine in my 3mm last time but doing some training this time so figured longer in-water-time had me concerned

Water temp is 75-76 for fresh. Felt wonderful. Just fabulous. I was in the water up to 85 minutes for a single dive (NO halocline) and was fine. The salt water was what was too warm for me. I think instructor took me to Taj (no halocline) for the last 3 days of class because I was stressed from the topside temps then add the salt water warmth onto that.
 
Hmmmmmmmmm heading to the cenotes next month. I got a 5mm since I thought I might be cold. I was fine in my 3mm last time but doing some training this time so figured longer in-water-time had me concerned
I’d bring a 7 or a drysuit, especially as the total number of days in a row increases.
 
I was down in PDC (Playa del Carmen) for full cave Aug 3-10. Class took 5 days and the last day was guided fun dives with instructor. I had a very specific timeline I was working with, to get full cave done OC SM before my CCR arrived the second half of September. I prefer cold. Me going to MX in August was something that had to be done. I will probably never go back. It was not a fun trip. It was a successful trip as I passed full cave. It was something to be endured due to the heat, humidity, and skeeters.

Instructor was Alessandra (Ale) Figari of Cave Training Mexico. She’s been in PDC for nearly 30 years and a cave/tech instructor for at least 15 years. Her shop also offers PADI recreational and tec classes, CCR training, and cavern/cave guiding. Alessandra is a TDI, RAID, and IANTD instructor, in addition to PADI. I did TDI Full cave. Besides her native Italian, she speaks fluent English, Spanish, and French. She has students of all nationalities. She had a group of South Koreans this spring for a TDI cave class.

Ale specializes in older (over 40) students and gimpy people. I have knee/sciatica issues myself. She’s had at least one one-legged cave student. Ale is early 60s herself. She was highly recommended by my WI cave/CCR instructor. They’ve been friends for years. In our first conversation I mentioned my knee/sciatica issues. She immediately suggested we get a porter aka scuba sherpa to haul ALL our gear. Our porter was a late 20s guy named Arturo. He dives some himself. He even brought our SM rigs to where we were standing at the water’s edge. This was valet cave diving. It allowed me to focus on diving and not wear myself out hauling tanks up and down the stairs. 500 pesos a day for the porter. We split the cost.

We did two days at Jardin del Eden, and three days at Tajma Ha. Fun diving was at Nohoch. Eden was very busy with swimmers and snorkelers. The cliff jumpers were fun to watch. I liked the entry at Taj and Nohoch better as we were able to gear up standing in shallow water rather than standing on a slippery wooden ladder with weirdly angled steps, as at Eden. Taj was quieter, but the skeeters were worse. Nohoch gets my vote for best grounds as there is gravel everywhere, which greatly cuts down on mud.

Ale is a very patient instructor with a great sense of humor. We alternated days of two shorter dives (45-60 min) and days with longer single dives (75-85 minutes). I learned a ton and my diving showed it.

I normally dive dry (thick undies) with steel 85s SM and a DR Nomad XT. I dived wet in a 5mm for class with my Nomad. Yes, it’s overkill for AL80s, but it’s what I’m used to. No need to complicate class. I was fine temp wise in the 5mm. The 81F water temp below the halocline at Eden was too hot for me. I was much happier with little to no halocline at Taj and Nohoch, which meant 75-76F water temps. Ale dived SM, as well. I did two dives at home with wetsuit and AL80s before class.

Travel: I flew Southwest from Chicago O’Hare direct to Cancun. SW just started flying out of ORD about 18 months ago. I live 30 min from ORD so much more convenient than Midway. There is one daily non-stop, direct flight each way. I made sure I was on it, due to current chaos with connecting flights. 3:40 flight time. I had a business select ticket. $725, bought late May. Due to being first to check in on both flights I was the first to board. Got my preferred aisle seat, row 3 or 4, and overhead space right above my seat.

Hotel: Aventura Mexican in PDC, recommended by instructor. $407 for the week, about half off with a special mobile only rate on the Booking.com app. Requested a first floor room due to my knees. No elevator. Rooms are around a courtyard with two pools. Room was very clean, with a fabulous bed. Toiletries are provided. AC was VERY cold. The on site restaurant provides a continental breakfast (included in hotel rate) of coffee, juice, toast, and cut up fruit (canteloupe, watermelon, pineapple). Several mornings the fruit was inedible. TA recent reviews mention the same. Two mornings I got a ham and cheese bagel. Very good. Hotel Wi-Fi was excellent. Monica in the front office was fabulous.

I did not rent a car. I pre-booked a private shuttle between airport and PDC with Thomas Moore travel, recommended by a friend who has used them for decades. $180 round trip. Ale picked me up for diving each day and we got lunch on the way, stopping for drinks, sandwiches, and cut up fruit. I got my sandwich each day from Sabrina, an Italian bakery/cafe next to the dive shop. I believe they’re a chain.

Class/guiding fee was $250/day. It was just me. Tanks and fills (air or 32%) are included in class fee. We dived 32%. The dive shop has space for students to hang up suits to dry overnight, as well as a place to charge your lights. I didn’t have to take any gear back to my hotel.

I would definitely recommend Ale or the hotel.
Love the write up Marie. No padding, just straight to the point with cold hard facts. A bit like a police report, but in a good way!
 
Love the write up Marie. No padding, just straight to the point with cold hard facts. A bit like a police report, but in a good way!

I used to cover police back in the early 90s when I was a newspaper reporter. The more murder, rape, and mayhem, the more fun my job was. And people wonder at my weird sense of humor. 😂🤣
 
Interesting interview with MX instructor.

 
Hmmmmmmmmm heading to the cenotes next month. I got a 5mm since I thought I might be cold. I was fine in my 3mm last time but doing some training this time so figured longer in-water-time had me concerned
I've always been comfortable in a 5mil suit even on cave dives that are hours long. But a hood is essential IME. For years I used a 3mil suit with a 2 mil hooded vest and that was ok but eventually I'd get cold. Now it's a 5 mil suit with a thin hooded vest and that works great.
 
Interesting interview with MX instructor.

Allesandra is a personal friend and one of my favorite peeps in the world! She rocks.
 
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