Testing Rules are Changing...

[Hoag]

What's the reasoning of making air travelers provide a negative test but not land crossers?

I have no idea. I don't make the rules. I just try to keep up with them and follow them.

If I were to guess, my guess would be that this is due to all of the cities near the border that rely on cross border shopping day trips for business. (Having contact with and potentially exposing or being exposed to relatively few people.) Those who fly, on ther other hand tend to be on vacation and will be in the US for more than a few hours, so the number of people that they will likely come into contact with will probably be significantly higher. So, If I wanted to go across the border to do some shopping for a day, I would still need to get a PCR test (before I go) so that I can get back into Canada when I am done.

 

[myself]

I was raised in an era when vaccinations were not looked on as a threat to our "liberties" but rather a gift to our children.

they were also well tested and documented and were not being used as a way to show your political "virtue"

 

[lexvil]

they were also well tested and documented and were not being used as a way to show your political "virtue"

Or gullibility

 

[tursiops]

they were also well tested and documented and were not being used as a way to show your political "virtue"

BS. We never before had a president who made fun of vaccines and treated the entire pandemic as a personal affront.

 

[Lorenzoid]

they were also well tested and documented and were not being used as a way to show your political "virtue"

The Covid vaccine has now been administered to millions of people around the world, a huge amount of data has been collected, and health authorities around the world have deemed it safe and (to varying degrees) effective. That argument may have been interesting a year ago but no longer.

As for political virtue, I have never heard of that term. As I saw it, getting the Covid vaccine was no more or less a virtuous act or a political act than getting any of the dozen or so others I have gotten against various diseases. There's a disease and there's a vaccine for it, which is all the reason I needed to decide to get vaccinated. I got the shingles vaccine recently, too. Why not?

 

[lexvil]

The Covid vaccine has now been administered to millions of people around the world, a huge amount of data has been collected, and health authorities around the world have deemed it safe and (to varying degrees) effective. That argument may have been interesting a year ago but no longer.

As for political virtue, I have never heard of that term. As I saw it, getting the Covid vaccine was no more or less a virtuous act or a political act than getting any of the dozen or so others I have gotten against various diseases. There's a disease and there's a vaccine for it, which is all the reason I needed to decide to get vaccinated. I got the shingles vaccine recently, too. Why not?

The wrong wing sees doing the correct thing as virtue signaling, things like wearing a mask.

 

[BRT]

BS. We never before had a president who made fun of vaccines and treated the entire pandemic as a personal affront.

??? Who was the president who made fun of vaccines?

 

[ReefHound]

??? Who was the president who made fun of vaccines?

Surely they are not referring to the one that actually delivered the vaccine, took the vaccine, and recommended the vaccine.

 

[drrich2]

As for political virtue, I have never heard of that term. As I saw it, getting the Covid vaccine was no more or less a virtuous act or a political act than getting any of the dozen or so others I have gotten against various diseases.

Agreed. Unfortunately, in light of the U.S. culture war, there's a perception we're divided into warring tribes, with a duty of solidarity to our side, a distrust and vilification of things associated with the other side, and our perceptions tend to distort to avoid cognitive dissonance. Very sad.

I'm a right wing/conservative, and I couldn't get to my first shot (through work) fast enough. I was literally hesitant to take a dump that day for fear I'd get the call to come get it while on the throne (which happened, but make no mistake, I got there).

I didn't get my COVID-19 vaccine info. from Trump and I don't get it from Biden. No offense to either man, but the idea of getting vaccine info. from a politician...wow. Just...wow.

If anyone wants a nuanced view, the New York Times 'The Morning' e-mail, usually by David Leonhardt, has some insightful articles looking at the data and illustrating that many right wingers tend to downplay the threat, and many left wingers tend to exaggerate it. I don't subscribe (hey, it's a leftist publication!), but that e-mail's free, and Leonhardt does good reporting.

I keep thinking a Centrist group may arise in the U.S., but not much sign of that yet.

 

[ReefHound]

As for political virtue, I have never heard of that term. As I saw it, getting the Covid vaccine was no more or less a virtuous act or a political act than getting any of the dozen or so others I have gotten against various diseases.

Oh please, what other vaccines had people posting on social media that they just got vaccinated (or even partially vaccinated), posting pics of their vax card, changing their profile pics to "Vaccinated", and even wearing around t-shirts saying "I'm Vaccinated"?