Resort's " New Normal " Rule - No AIR 2 or diving your long hose

[yle]

Yes, it was new, yes it was unprecedented, yes it took its toll (and is likely to continue for a time), but so have other things in history, and so will things further in the future... That's the way it goes! There are debates going on about whether or not this stuff was intentional, or whether or not this stuff was mismanaged, but that's not what I'm talking about, and I'm not about to postulate about such topics here. My only point is that this will blow over, the same as every other event in human history.

I'll agree with you that it was new. And that it will blow over. But it wasn't unprecedented. There have been much greater catastrophes throughout human history. This one will barely even register a footnote in future history books.

The only reason it seems like such a huge deal is because the popular media need something to fill their websites constantly. And that's the reason it'll soon be behind us. People will get tired of hearing about it, so pop media will move on to the next controversy of the week.

 

[D_Fresh]

I'll agree with you that it was new. And that it will blow over. But it wasn't unprecedented. There have been much greater catastrophes throughout human history. This one will barely even register a footnote in future history books.

The only reason it seems like such a huge deal is because the popular media need something to fill their websites constantly. And that's the reason it'll soon be behind us. People will get tired of hearing about it, so pop media will move on to the next controversy of the week.

Yep, I think you're totally right on that. I'll happily take that correction.

 

[shoredivr]

Is anybody actually reading what Buddy Dive is saying in their “New Normal” page? It’s already been mentioned but Bonaire is part of the EU and has to abide by certain regulations in order to open up to tourist divers.

https://buddydive.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/BDR-Safety-Measures-v3.pdf

“During Buddy Dive supervised diving activities (boat dives, guided shore dives and courses) guests
must be in the possession of an alternate air source.This cannot be the alternate air source and inflator
hose combo or “air2’.

• Divers using a long hose are recommended using their necklace as a primary air source so in case of
an emergency the long hose can still be used without any risk.”

If you are shore diving on your own, this doesn’t apply to you.

Recommended is not mandated.

 

[KenGordon]

Bonaire is part of the EU and has to abide by certain regulations in order to open up to tourist divers.

What EU regulations are those?

I ask because I don’t think there are any and this ‘blame the EU’ thing has resulted in the U.K. being run by proper idiots and leaving the EU.

 

[BluEclipse17]

During supervised diving activities (boat dives, guided shore dives and courses) guests must be in the possession of an alternate air source. This cannot be the alternate air source and inflator hose combo or “air2’’.
Technical diving is to use neckless as primary source of breathing and leave long hose clipped to D-Ring as an option to give gas this way it will remain clean.

What do you think of this " New Normal " Rule?

Would you not go diving at this resort because of this new rule? ( I have decided to not mention the specific dive resort. )

Please stay on topic. This tread is not about which gear configuration you like or don't like.

While I have many regulators I could configure to meet this requirement I would not dive with this resort. It's more on principle than anything else. I get tired seeing knee jerk reactions in the name of safety which does little to actually increase safety. In reality, I think forcing someone to change a configuration they have been trained to use and are used to using is irresponsible. Drowning WILL kill you while covid has a pretty low chance-if you even get it from the air share.

I prefer to dive with divers that have practiced and trained in the configuration they use. If I'm really out of air I'd gladly take the reg from a covid carrier. Theres plenty of time to sort that out on the surface- IF it even occurs. Last thing I want is a delayed response while OOA because the diver was told yesterday they had to change the gear there been diving for years and never trained with. Completely Irresponsible and unsafe.

A completely different point- how to do they get divers to the dive site? Does everyone have their own bubble on the boat? Not many boats I've seen could cover cost with few enough divers to truly social distance.

 

[Oldenboldiver]

Why do you think it is being ignored? It is explicitly part of the rules.

The OP:

"During supervised diving activities (boat dives, guided shore dives and courses) guests must be in the possession of an alternate air source. This cannot be the alternate air source and inflator hose combo or “air2’’.
Technical diving is to use neckless as primary source of breathing and leave long hose clipped to D-Ring as an option to give gas this way it will remain clean."

No mention of social distancing on boats there. That's why I think it's being ignored.

 

[tursiops]

The OP:

"During supervised diving activities (boat dives, guided shore dives and courses) guests must be in the possession of an alternate air source. This cannot be the alternate air source and inflator hose combo or “air2’’.
Technical diving is to use neckless as primary source of breathing and leave long hose clipped to D-Ring as an option to give gas this way it will remain clean."

No mention of social distancing on boats there. That's why I think it's being ignored.

There is an entire section in the Buddy Dive document about boat diving.

 

[uncfnp]

There is an entire section in the Buddy Dive document about boat diving.
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I commented on DF’s facebook page when they mentioned the use of gloves and I recommended against this unless they are using some chemical to clean gear and need to protect their hands. They responded that the gloves were the heavy duty gloves they will reuse and sanitize.

My opinion (obviously) again is no gloves otherwise. I can’t even imagine how they might me useful on the dive boat.

 

[Diving Dubai]

You will find references to sources here:

Inch - Wikipedia

Foot (unit) - Wikipedia

The mile one and all it's variants is the best Wikipedia - Mile

But teh original question was what is a metre (meter in american)

and the answer of course is

The metre is the length of the path travelled by light in vacuum during a time interval of 1/299 792 458 of a second. With a yard being 0.9144 of that

 

[tursiops]

I commented on DF’s facebook page when they mentioned the use of gloves and I recommended against this unless they are using some chemical to clean gear and need to protect their hands. They responded that the gloves were the heavy duty gloves they will reuse and sanitize.

My opinion (obviously) again is no gloves otherwise. I can’t even imagine how they might me useful on the dive boat.

I think the gloves are to protect the staff, not the customers.