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Resort's " New Normal " Rule - No AIR 2 or diving your long hose

Discussion in 'General Travel and Vacation Discussions' started by beaverdivers, May 21, 2020.

  1. beaverdivers

    beaverdivers ScubaBoard Business Sponsor ScubaBoard Business Sponsor

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    During supervised diving activities (boat dives, guided shore dives and courses) guests must be in the possession of an alternate air source. This cannot be the alternate air source and inflator hose combo or “air2’’.
    Technical diving is to use neckless as primary source of breathing and leave long hose clipped to D-Ring as an option to give gas this way it will remain clean.

    What do you think of this " New Normal " Rule?

    Would you not go diving at this resort because of this new rule? ( I have decided to not mention the specific dive resort. )

    Please stay on topic. This tread is not about which gear configuration you like or don't like.
     
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  2. tbone1004

    tbone1004 Technical Instructor ScubaBoard Supporter

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    I'm not a fan, the risk of contracting covid is not worth increased risk of an incident due to an inferior regulator configuration. I'm sure BSAC is capitalizing on this though as they don't allow Air2's, and do not use long hose as primary...
     
  3. rsingler

    rsingler Scuba Instructor, Tinkerer in Brass Staff Member ScubaBoard Sponsor

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  4. lexvil

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    I think it’s a great idea, something like this helps weed out who I don’t want to use.
     
  5. AdivingBel

    AdivingBel Diver ScubaBoard Supporter

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  6. rsingler

    rsingler Scuba Instructor, Tinkerer in Brass Staff Member ScubaBoard Sponsor

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    As a way to find divers who are, in general, less compliant types, and therefore maybe more likely to have been exposed to COVID, it might have some value.
    As a medical preventative measure, not so much.
     
  7. Angelo Farina

    Angelo Farina Marine Scientist

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    For me it makes fully sense, and it is compliant with current hygienic recommendations.
    I had always been against the concept of "primary donate".
    It is explicitly forbidden by the training I received as a firefighter (" never remove your breathing apparatus for giving it to the person in distress your are helping").
    Primary donate is a good way to switch from having one diver in distress to having two...
    On the other hand, I always did find appropriate using an alternate air source equipped with a good second stage, possibly an independent first stage on a separate post, with high performances exactly as the primary source, and with a long, yellow hose.
    Of course other divers diving with me must be aware that they can ask me air only from such a secondary air source, and that I will never give them my primary one.
     
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  8. d^2b

    d^2b Worse diving through photography ScubaBoard Supporter

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    Maybe first figure out why there are enough out-of-air events that this even matters. Teaching is a separate question but do resorts really see air sharing on a daily basis?
     
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  9. tbone1004

    tbone1004 Technical Instructor ScubaBoard Supporter

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    it's a GREAT way to off someone if you are doing technical dives though and give them a non-breathable mix, and it is also not in reality with many real world panic out of air scenarios where things like to get grabbed out of your mouth. Those two things are the reason that primary donate is the focus for technical diving. You have a known working regulator, with known working gas, and if the reg gets grabbed out of your mouth, then no problem. If you have someone with a communicable disease you deal with it on a case by case basis.
     
  10. Edward3c

    Edward3c Instructor, Scuba

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    Your right, 'Air2' type units are not considered an suitable Alternate Source.

    For fun dives, divers can use whatever configuration they want, just so long as they can show (in document form) that’s what they were taught, for insurance purposes.

    When in training, involving rescue skills, a primary donate/take configuration is not permitted (doesn’t matter about the length of the hose).
     

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