Resort's " New Normal " Rule - No AIR 2 or diving your long hose

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Wow. And at the other end of the spectrum... no need to be a complete degenerate about it. Oh, wait...

Dive and let dive.

:D

I respect that resorts can make whatever rules they want, that's fine and it is their right.
But the way they've enforced it (based on the first post) doesn't seem to be a very good way to ensure donating air can be done in a safe and efficient way, that's the problem I have with it.
Having the reg you're supposed to donate in an emergency clipped to a d-ring just seems like a great way to make an emergency a much bigger problem than it already is.
 
Reg in mouth while upchucking. Yes. Definitely. That has worked every time. A few time I've switched to my alternate so that if it clogged I could then go back to my primary. I've also unscrewed the cover off the filled-up reg, pulled the diaphragm out, cleaned the reg out, reassembled, and carried on. Hint, if it clogs, it is probably the exhaust port. I sincerely wish I did not have so much experience with this.
 
Like all rules, you should examine each and everyone to see if there's any real validity. Remember my list?
Science
Tradition
Fear
BS​

Only ones based on science are inviolate.

Er, ehm...
I am a scientist, and I can testify that also rules based on science are often bogus...
Only the proof of facts is the benchmark for assessing which rules are good and which are not!
 
Hi @beaverdivers

Yes. This would make me consider whether or not to book there. Some considerations:
- their resort, their rules
- their boat, their rules
- their rented tanks, random non-resort dive site, my rules

but realistically, when I go to Bonaire I dive with my wife (who prefers to dive in places where an OOG scenario is best resolved by ascending a few meters), with a select few friends who live there (all instructors that I worked with before) and are comfortable with any available gas supply, or solo (sidemount for full redundancy).
Normally my kit is configured with longhoses (single tank, doubles, and sidemount) but if I would want to dive from the resort I am happy to swap a hose to go on holiday.

So for a 2 week holiday, I honestly don't really care that much. Swapping a hose is a lot easier than reading up on 47 pages of comments and, given my choice of divemates, will not effect anybody's safety in any way.

Now if you ask me about general every day diving, considering multiple different situations, instabuddies, students, teaching philosophy, accident analysis, risk mitigation, etc etc this becomes a different story and then the 47 pages were well worth it
 
Having the reg you're supposed to donate in an emergency clipped to a d-ring just seems like a great way to make an emergency a much bigger problem than it already is.
- (Dual) Sidemount divers plan on donating a clipped off reg all the time. Granted, they've equipped it with a breakaway or other quick release and often have more experience.
- You can also just add an octo, and, being well informed, secure it well with say a snorkel keeper.
- Test the octo on the dock, disinfect it, then don't breath off it.

I like this breakaway, though it can come off the boltsnap unless you tie them together.
RAZOR Break Away Connector
 
I am a scientist, and I can testify that also rules based on science are often bogus...
Then they aren't really based on science.

Yes, our understanding of science changes, like the involuntary breath I never seem to take, but science will correct itself over time. BS won't.
 
You guys can rant and rave about how you can't safely donate a clipped off long hose, but I suggest you actually READ the Buddy Dive "rules," because they never mention that the long hose should be clipped off, and they only recommend that the alternate be used instead of the long hose. Their only actual prohibition is that an "AIR2" cannot be the only alternate air source. So get your facts straight before you go off dial.
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