Resort's " New Normal " Rule - No AIR 2 or diving your long hose

[Edward3c]

Weird, my atomic ss1 breathes very much like my other atomic regs at depth. Like other regs, there are some air2s that breath great and there are some that breath poorly.

The breathing quality isn’t an issue. It’s the positioning of rescuer to casualty that the configuration dictates that is unacceptable.

Also, if you're the casualty in a rescue scenario, the use of an air 2 is totally transparent to you. Unless you guys over there are training that the air2 is donated, in which case, this is a training problem, not an equipment problem.

BSAC teaches secondary take/donate, which is incompatible with an AIR2 type secondary.

 

[tursiops]

https://buddydive.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/BDR-Safety-Measures-v2-1.pdf
Oh dear.

Slightly rewritten, but the same info.
https://buddydive.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/BDR-Safety-Measures-v3.pdf

 

[Paul M]

I'm in sidemount. I can take care of myself. Don't assign me a buddy. Problem solved.

I was about to write the same and add, I will be damned if you think I'm not going to use my sidemount longhouse.

 

[saxman242]

BSAC teaches secondary take/donate, which is incompatible with an AIR2 type secondary.

Which is fine. An Air2 isn't compatible with the BSAC training. That means the training is flawed for one using that equipment. Saying that a casualty in a rescue scenario can't breath off an air2 means the equipment is being used incorrectly. Likewise, there is lots of training that is incompatible with secondary take/donate. You wouldn't try to do long hose sharing with an octo on a 40" hose and say that's evidence that a long hose is flawed.

 

[Edward3c]

Which is fine. An Air2 isn't compatible with the BSAC training. That means the training is flawed for one using that equipment.

Which is why they’re not permitted during training.

Saying that a casualty in a rescue scenario can't breath off an air2 means the equipment is being used incorrectly.

Your words, I didn’t say they couldn’t provide gas.

You wouldn't try to do long hose sharing with an octo on a 40" hose and say that's evidence that a long hose is flawed.

Nothing wrong with a long secondary, plenty of divers use them.

Now the final spanner in the works. I route the secondary is on the left side, not the PADI right side.

 

[saxman242]

Your words, I didn’t say they couldn’t provide gas.

Well, it was Gareth's words I was responding to, so his words, not mine.

 

[uncfnp]

Guys. It’s irrelevant if you like Air 2’s or not. The question is whether primary donate poses enough of a general risk to divers for dive ops to mandate gear configurations. As pointed out by many, and in my opinion, the answer is no. It IS a suitable question between buddies.

 

[flymolo]

Their boat their rules but I think it is a bit of over thinking the risk and the situation. If they want to have a real impact on risk and not just the appearence, it’s much more important to require masks on board and maintain social distancing as much as possible in such confined spaces, make sure captain, crew and customers are symptom free. And of course give rental gear and facilities a good cleaning between uses.

Choice of equipment and configuration should be a choice of the buddy pairs. And of course if a diver is diving (true) solo its a nonissue.

Seems like if you really had to go with them you could just switch to your longhose after jumping off the boat

 

[uncfnp]

Seems like if you really had to go with them you could just switch to your longhose after jumping off the boat

See my post #55

 

[diver0008]

How about this. Simply mandate that everybody carries their own completely-isolated, dive-appropriate, redundant, airsource - i.e. a suitably-sized pony....

This seems the logical adaptation to me. Good for the economy too.