Resort's " New Normal " Rule - No AIR 2 or diving your long hose

[Angelo Farina]

@loosenit2 Air2 use requires primary donate...

Sorry, no, I never allowed anyone diving under my guidance with just a primary reg attached to an AIR2. The AIR2 is an ADDITIONAL air source, not an ALTERNATE air source.
With an Air2 you typically use a primary reg with the Air2 attached to the same LP out usually employed for the BCD hose. And then you MUST have another reg, possibly with its autonomous first stage.
So you have your primary, a secondary ready to be donated, and the Air2 which is a third, additional air source, to be used only by you and never donated.
As said, I had never allowed any diver under my responsibility to dive with just a primary and an Air2.
This is a totally unsafe config.
An Air2 can be a good additional safety instead of a normal BCD command, but still requires that the tank is equipped with an independent secondary reg.

 

[greeniguana]

Hopefully this unnamed resort has also stopped renting dive gear too.

 

[Umuntu]

What is the likelihood to have you in need of an unknown buddy air supply, who is positive for COVID, does not know that he may spread the virus or knows it and is going diving anyway?
What is the likelihood of you being positive to COVID, not knowing you can spread the virus, going diving and ending in a situation where your buddy needs your air suppply?

I think the discussion is only about primary or secondary - COVID does not change anything.

Or would you say as an introduction: Hello, my name is Inigo Montoya, i am positive for COVID, so please do not take my primary in case of emergency, otherwise it may kill you.

Happy to take the S...storm.

What's the likelihood of going skiing with someone who is positive for COVID, does not know that he may spread the virus or knows it and is going skiing anyway?

Ski resort tourists sue Austrian authorities for 'withholding information' about pandemic

 

[beaverdivers]

Additional edit to this thread:

Would you not go diving at this resort because of this new rule? ( I have decided to not mention the specific dive resort. )

Please stay on topic. This tread is not about which gear configuration you like or don't like.

 

[Angelo Farina]

What's the likelihood of going skiing with someone who is positive for COVID, does not know that he may spread the virus or knows it and is going skiing anyway?

Ski resort tourists sue Austrian authorities for 'withholding information' about pandemic

In Italy we had a strong spread of the virus at ski stations in February, so it was necessary to close them quickly. Particularly dangerous are the large cable cabins employed for bringing back skiers up to the mountain. Here the skiers are packed strictly, and the virus transmission causes thousands of infections.

 

[saxman242]

Would you not go diving at this resort because of this new rule? ( I have decided to not mention the specific dive resort. )

I would think long and hard about it, as the dive resort is making policies that degrade safety.

They're either doing it because they can't actually properly frame the risks, which is unfortunate and concerning, or they're doing it so they can say "look at us, we're being so precautious!" as a marketing tool.

 

[Umuntu]

Additional edit to this thread:

Would you not go diving at this resort because of this new rule? ( I have decided to not mention the specific dive resort. )

Please stay on topic. This tread is not about which gear configuration you like or don't like.

I would be more likely to consider diving with them. They have thought about the risks and are taking steps to address them. Hopefully that filters throughout their operation too.

 

[Zieg]

Screw it! Go diving in your own, solo, or with your best friend, whatever configuration you prefer, in salt water away from everyone else, none of all these rules.

 

[saxman242]

Hopefully that filters throughout their operation too.

Exactly... that's the problem. They've thought about the risks and made policies that transfer to higher risks rather than reduce them. I'd be very concerned that they were doing the same thing with the rest of their operation.

 

[loosenit2]

you contradicted yourself though, how can "not many folks" use primary donate and have no significant impact on resorts, but the lack of Air2 would? They are tied together

We may be splitting semantic hairs. Yes use of an air2 is a form of primary donate, but outside of SB I have not heard one person using an air2 refer to their setup as a primary donate, they typically say they are using an air2 or a bcd inflator octo. Most folks that talk primary donate as a system are tech divers, a much more limited group.